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#1 by valerie » Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:13

I purchased the Lion upgrade after it was released but have not installed it yet due to the bad reviews.

If you are using Lion, how do you like it? Have you noticed bugs and or slowing?
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#2 by mutchy126 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:17

I use Mac OS X Lion! I really like it, I have not noticed any Bugs or my Computer Slowing Down! Most Software works for it which is Good! (Probably about 90%)
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#3 by valerie » Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:34

Have you got it installed on a desktop or a lap?
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#4 by ptcscrutiny » Fri Dec 02, 2011 20:30

I am using Lion (10.7.2) on MacBook Pro 13.3". Its running absolutely perfect with no issues at all.

What problems are you facing?
Is it related to shutdown where the spinning gear keeps rotating and you have to shut it down forcibly by pressing the Power button for 5-6 seconds?
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#5 by valerie » Fri Dec 02, 2011 20:57

I purchased it the day it came out but did not install it. As I read the reviews, I decided not to install it since the reviews were so bad.

Just a few minutes ago, I decided to go ahead and install it as maybe they have some of the bugs out of it now.

I have the 27" mac desktop.

But it sure appears it takes a longggg time to install. It keeps flashing time left and it is any where from a day + 4 hours to 6 hours to 19 hours to ... crazy.
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#6 by ptcscrutiny » Fri Dec 02, 2011 23:33

I bought my MacBook in July, just a week before Lion launched so I got it for free :P
And I actually burnt Lion to a DVD so now I have Snow Leopard and Lion both (on physical discs).

It took me just 40 minutes to install. Apple says you must have Snow Leopard 10.6.8 to install Lion. Non sense. You can do a clean install too just like I did. Installing Lion over Snow Leopard made my Mac too slow and I started having the shutdown issue as I described earlier. So I did a clean install of Lion by removing Snow Leopard completely.

Here are a couple of links telling you how to make a backup disc for Lion.

How to create an OS X Lion installation disc | MacFixIt - CNET Reviews
Egg Freckles | Burning a Lion Boot Disc


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But it sure appears it takes a longggg time to install. It keeps flashing time left and it is any where from a day + 4 hours to 6 hours to 19 hours to ... crazy.

You will face this issue if you are downloading Lion over the internet directly when starting up. I faced that too. :(
I wasted nearly 12 hours seeing that message once :?

Download it from the MacApp Store and make a disc. Then erase Snow Leopard completely and format the HD (after backing up your files obviously) and then perform a clean install Lion from the disc.


As for bugs with Lion, I have not faced any till now. Its a massive improvement from Snow Leopard so I'd say that those who are stuck with 10.6 or lower are really missing out Lion's innovative features.
In fact, according to me ==> Lion = OSX + iOS :)

I just hate one thing about Lion. And that is the inability of removing programs from the LaunchPad :thumbdown:
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#7 by valerie » Fri Dec 02, 2011 23:49

That's the main reason why I did not download it...many said it runs slow.

I've had this mac about one and half years or less. I really don't have much on it other than what was on it when I bought it. So I am not really afraid of losing any software I have downloaded in the past since I don't have not did much in regards of installing additional software, downloads, apps.

This is now saying there is 2 hours left.

What you are saying, sounds like a lot of work. lol

I am kind of worried about it because I would hate to lose all my photos and videos on here...in addition to it running slow. That's the only thing that concerns me.

Doesn't this over write Snow Leopard?

I'll click those links up there to read more.
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#8 by ptcscrutiny » Sat Dec 03, 2011 00:23

No it won't over write anything over Snow Leopard but it will slow up a little although Apple won't accept this fact openly.

All your applications, photos, videos, files, in short everything will be as it is. Just that the additional features of Lion will be added automatically after the installation is complete. Like more trackpad gestures, LaunchPad, Mission Control (which replaces Spaces), auto-save feature (which I absolutely love), etc.

So nothing to worry at all. Your files will remain as they were before :)
But I would highly recommend a clean install. But before that I would suggest you use Lion for about 2-3 weeks and get used to the new features. I'm sure you'll find it better than Snow Leopard.
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#9 by ptcscrutiny » Sat Dec 03, 2011 00:26

valerie wrote: That's the main reason why I did not download it...many said it runs slow.


Just want to add one more thing here. Lion is not slow at all if you do a clean install. In fact, it is at par with SL and many tech forums and review sites have proved it.
If you install it over Snow Leopard, then obviously it will be slow. Majority of the users have installed it over SL, so thats why they are complaining.
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#10 by valerie » Sat Dec 03, 2011 00:31

Ok so when this thing finishes downloading, it will sit in my applications folder until I am ready to install, correct?

In the mean time, what I need to do is follow the directions on the page you posted, burn to disc the snow leopard and the lion. Then remove leopard and install lion from the disc?

I think I got it. :|
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#11 by ptcscrutiny » Sat Dec 03, 2011 00:41

I think after downloading, it will install directly. You might have to click "Next" or "I agree" , etc.
And it won't be there in the Applications Folder.

Like I said, use Lion (which you installed over SL) for about 2 weeks and get used to it. I wouldn't suggest you to do a clean install immediately.
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#12 by valerie » Sat Dec 03, 2011 00:53

Eh, not sure what I will do. There's about an hour left to complete download. Maybe I will just cancel the download as I don't want to take the time out to fool with it.
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#13 by ptcscrutiny » Sat Dec 03, 2011 00:59

I'd like to ask you one question. You said you purchased Lion back in July. So you downloaded it from the MacApp store. So where is that downloaded file ?
Do you have it on you computer or did you double click that to initiate the installation ?
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#14 by valerie » Sat Dec 03, 2011 01:04

After I purchased it in July, I did not download it.

I went back to my store account at apple, and clicked the download.

It has less than one hour left to complete download.

I was going by the page you placed the link to which says the following:

When downloaded it will be added to your Dock and Applications folder, but do not proceed with the installation and instead quit the store and close the installer if it has automatically opened.

That is what I was going to do. Thought I'd complete the download but not install it. I'll read the instructions for creating the disc. It's after 3am here, so I just figured I would close it out as instructed on that page, after it completes download, and not do the install at this time.
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#15 by ptcscrutiny » Sat Dec 03, 2011 01:11

Ok. So you just purchased it but didn't download it.

Yes, don't proceed with the installation immediately because then the installer will be automatically removed and you won't be able to create a disc.
First create the disc and then proceed with the installation. Also you might like to keep a copy of the InstallESD.dmg file (Lion installation file) which is around 3.74 GB on you Hard drive for future use (in case you lose the disc or it is destroyed. You can create another disc with this file then).

So right now you are downloading Lion 10.7.2 right?

Also go to sleep and have some rest as its already past 3 am. These installations/backups are a head-ache and I really get annoyed doing all these.
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#16 by valerie » Sat Dec 03, 2011 01:17

The lion head is in my dock. From the store, it has about 40 minutes left to complete download.
I don't know what version it is, as it does not say. It just says OS X Lion.

Going to stay awake til this completes the download, then I'll close it out.

I'll have to buy the discs because I don't have any. So I will wait about doing the install until after I have the discs.
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#17 by ptcscrutiny » Sat Dec 03, 2011 01:21

The current version on the AppStore is 10.7.2

You can go to sleep as the installation won't start automatically until you accept the "Terms and Conditions" :lol:

So let it download while you sleep.

What sleep will you prefer ?

This >>>>


Or this >>>
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#18 by valerie » Sat Dec 03, 2011 01:31

Wouldn't it be the current version even tho I purchased in July?

There's less than 24 minutes remaining so I might as well sit here like your second image. :lol:
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#19 by ptcscrutiny » Sat Dec 03, 2011 01:34

valerie wrote: Wouldn't it be the current version even tho I purchased in July?

You get free updates for lifetime so if you download it now, you will get the latest version ;)

Anyways, I am going offline for now. So no more replies in the next 2-3 hours from myside.
Bye.
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#20 by valerie » Sat Dec 03, 2011 01:35

Hey, I noticed on the 'about this mac' it says 'Mac OS X'. In fact, I recall seeing that the other day. I know it use to say Snow Leopard.
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