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#21 by valerie » Tue Jan 03, 2012 18:49

Good info about MoneyBookers, I did not know that.
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#22 by Eddie267 » Tue Jan 03, 2012 19:59

Thanks AlienMommy for the info about MB I read it somewhere. I heard a member sent a support ticket to OkPay and its been 8 months and still no reply.
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#23 by mostafa_raafat » Wed Jan 04, 2012 08:20

jasm78

Money bookers , it is better to ask them your self

in their website :
Skrill (Moneybookers) does NOT accept merchants from the following industries:

Adult/erotic
Pharmaceuticals
Tobacco
Firearms
Unlicenced downloads


there is no Gpt industry listed

but i asked them before they said they do not accept it , but i do not know if they mean only merchant accounts, or even for mass payments ,

i used moneybookers to buy hosting account from a website , by sending money to their payment email , and send them payment id , so they can create my hosting account , i do not know why they did not automate it in their system like paypal
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#24 by ptcscrutiny » Wed Jan 04, 2012 08:32

I am aware of a GPT site (PiggyBankGPT) which pays out members through MoneyBookers.
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#25 by mostafa_raafat » Wed Jan 04, 2012 09:08

ptcscrutiny wrote: I am aware of a GPT site (PiggyBankGPT) which pays out members through MoneyBookers.

can members purchase instantly from this site , or are they use payment id method i mentioned above ?

i think purchasing by payment processor :clixsense: uses to pay members is important , so :clixsense: account have enough funds to pay to members , right?

thank you
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#26 by ptcscrutiny » Wed Jan 04, 2012 09:17

mostafa_raafat wrote:
ptcscrutiny wrote: I am aware of a GPT site (PiggyBankGPT) which pays out members through MoneyBookers.

can members purchase instantly from this site , or are they use payment id method i mentioned above ?

i think purchasing by payment processor :clixsense: uses to pay members is important , so :clixsense: account have enough funds to pay to members , right?

thank you

I am not sure about the purchases. Only thing I am aware of is that they have MoneyBookers as a cashout method.
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#27 by S_Abbott » Wed Jan 04, 2012 09:30

ptcscrutiny wrote: I am aware of a GPT site (PiggyBankGPT) which pays out members through MoneyBookers.

True, GPT sites are different. Surveys and Signups.

At the time Moneybookers started banning sites, it was PTR's and PTC's and Traffic Exchanges. Especially the autosurf exchanges.
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#28 by mostafa_raafat » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:09

ptcscrutiny

thanks :)
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#29 by jeff120 » Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:58

valerie wrote: Well let me tell ya a little story and I am sure a lot of people would remember it if I could think of the name.

There was a payment processor that came online some years ago...maybe around 7 years ago.
It was real nice. Very professional. The site was bright greens and whites and was excellent inside and out.
It had a very great layout too.
Inside the member area, you could see those you referred to it, and that was a very cool set up too...you
could mouse over their name and see their country and it was sort of in a big circle type fashion. I mean
that processor had some really truly great features and some I have never seen again.

Millions of people joined it. I couldn't tell you how many people I referred to it but it was a whole lot.

They were very professional. They sent emails on a regular basis.

Then one day they added another option of their users. Members could pay $100 and receive some
additional benefits. I don't remember what those benefits were, I did not pay it.

Time went by. Members kept waiting for the actual send and receive money to be implemented.
It was all there, but not everything was functioning yet in regards to the 'money'.

One day it went POOF! Ok, say they up and ran off. Of course everyone was upset and everyone
was having a jaw dropping experience. I truly could not believe it. If anything was going to go POOF,
it would not have been that. At first everyone thought it was an error, they would be back...of course
they never came back.

Many months passed.

A year passed.

More months passed.

One day, I took a really good look at my bank statement.
Hmmmm I thought, what is this? I looked at some past bank statements....there again, hmmmm
what is this? I was seeing $49.95, $75.00, $120.00, and so on taken out of my bank account by
something with a funny name I could not even pronounce. I called my bank right away and they
told me to come into the bank so that they could research it, etc.

In the mean time, I went online and began to search that funny name. I found loads and loads
and loads of information. Turns out, it was that highly professional payment processor that had
been automatically withdrawing funds from gazillions of bank accounts....from the information we
so gladly handed them!

I never got my money back. I had to close my checking account. I of course reopened a new
checking account but it was all a big headache.

I learned a very good lesson that day, IF you are going to do business online, keep TWO checking
accounts. I have had two checking accounts ever since. I keep one for online biz only and that
is the only one I relay to the payment processors. If something happens, I close it, no big deal,
it does not interrupt my main checking account. I also transfer from that second checking account
on a very regular basis, to my main checking account. So my balance in the second checking
account, is almost always at a $0 balance. As soon as funds hit that second account, I transfer
it out.

With all that said, I think it was known as the 'Mazuma Scam'. I'll have to research it to see as
I don't remember.

You'll not believe me if I am telling you that even TODAY we have in Romania a scam "payment processor" that still runs under the name 'dotcommerce' (they were kinda the first romanian payment processor online). Well, it doesn't scam people right now but there are hundreds of people judging with them even TODAY.

Every time they say "our owner is in Germany" or something like that. They don't have those money to pay the scam they made. Uff how many compatriots fell in this SCAM ! If you get a search with google translate you will get scared !
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#30 by S_Abbott » Fri Jan 20, 2012 08:37

I did some Googling a few days back, and indeed Moneybookers does not like our type of sites. Their reasoning being the same thing PayPal used to wipe out accounts for..."levels". They consider anything more than one level MLM/ponzi schemes. I found where several program owners had their accounts closed for using it as a payment processor due to the fact they had upwards of 5 levels. They still allow purchases, just not payments. The ToS part could hurt also, depending on what ads are being served here.

At the very least before adding Moneybookers, get one of their representatives to go over CS and make a final determination. I sure would hate to know CS put money into the account, then lost out and got locked out. :(
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#31 by CodeNameX » Fri Jan 20, 2012 09:21

jasm78
All are voting for moneybookers me too but your not adding it i dont know why you arnt adding it :x
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#32 by ptcscrutiny » Fri Jan 20, 2012 09:31

Ammadd wrote: jasm78
All are voting for moneybookers me too but your not adding it i dont know why you arnt adding it :x

Nothing to get mad about.
You cannot add a payment processor just like that. There is a process where you apply, send in the documents, the processor verifies it and then you integrate the API and so on so forth. There are a lot of formalities involved.

And btw, they are just asking for opinion. Its not mentioned anywhere that they are considering about adding more processors.
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#33 by jasm78 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:05

We have contacted moneybookers and they have approved us for payouts only, no purchases allowed. But we are still trying to have them approve us for everything.

If they accept gambling/betting and other risky stuff I don't understand what is the real problem with us.

They are being a lot less flexible than PayPal which is also as you know pretty strict already.

We are still discussing this, no decision has been made. We will keep you updated.
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#34 by valerie » Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:33

Don't tell them it is levels. Tell them in terms of today, along with ClixSense credibility and longevity, ClixSense is deemed an advert company with a free affiliate and an optional premium affiliate, of which the premium contains 8 tiers. Tell them if they want to relate the tiers to something else, to look at GDI.
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#35 by foundmoney » Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:52

hope moneybooker allow turkey
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#36 by Windrad » Fri Jan 20, 2012 15:45

In my country, Germany, a new system has started as easy to use as Paypal, but it is based on physical gold. For example: 1 gram of physical gold represents round about 60$. Thus, the miminum payout of 10$ here would mean to send about 0,16 grams of gold to the account of a standard member.

Would anybody like this idea, to be paid in gold? I am asking, because they intend to offer their services worldwide soon.

Just to make it clearer: the gold wouldn't be shipped by Clixsense to the member .... just booked like a $ on Paypal. And the owners of such accounts could send each other gold as well. Whereas the gold itself is physically sitting in Switzerland.
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#37 by jjohnson777 » Fri Jan 20, 2012 19:59

OkPay not replied to my support request asking for better info on type corp documents want. They also not replied to many others on another forum in that time period. They make alertpay support seem real fast.
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#38 by CodeNameX » Tue Jan 24, 2012 04:26

no updates ?
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#39 by stq_172 » Thu Jan 26, 2012 09:38

I hope, we will hear some positive news about Moneybookers soon.
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#40 by ridethewave » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:13

Just to make it clearer: the gold wouldn't be shipped by Clixsense to the member .... just booked like a $ on Paypal. And the owners of such accounts could send each other gold as well. Whereas the gold itself is physically sitting in Switzerland.[/quote]

Getting paid in gold is intriguing, but unless I'm taking physical possession of the gold, I'm not interested.
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