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#1 by Jamesrudy » Sun Jan 15, 2012 02:26

Russian Phobos-Grunt satellite debris to fall on Indonesia tonight

Indonesian astronomer Ma`rufin Sudibyo has warned the Indonesian public about a possible hazards from debris of Russia`s Phobos-Grunt satellite falling on Indonesia between January 9 and 20.

"People should not touch or come close to any strange debris that has fallen on earth after hearing thunder-like sounds in the sky at dawn or in the evening ," Ma`arufin said here Thursday.

The satellite`s debris was most likely to descend to earth at dawn or at between 03.00 and 05.00 am or between 01.00 and 04.00 pm local time, he said.

Basically, the satellite`s debris would bring two hazards, namely its impact on hitting earth and its toxicity, Ma`rufin said.

If the debris, weighing more than 200 kg, fell on a house, it would cause as much damage as the meteorite that hit a house in Duren Sawit, Jakarta, in 2010, he said.

The other danger was the debris`s toxicity as the Phobos-Grunt satellite contained a very toxic chemical substance, Dimetil Hidrain which could blister and burn human skin.

"Report immediately to the authorities, when you find any part of the debris," he said.

According to Ma`rufin, all satellites which fail to orbit and are trapped in the earth`s atmosphere carry such risks and hazards. Moreover, the Phobos-Grunt satellite had a huge mass and a lot of toxic material.

"Its descent line covers almost all of Indonesia`s territory," he said.

The Phobos-Grunt satellite was a vehicle to take soil and rock samples from the planet Mars and to carry samples of bacteria, plants, vertebrates for a space mission.

The Rp1.5 trillion satellite was launched from Baikonur Cosmodrome, Kazakhstan, on November 8, 2011 but it failed to reach Mars and was now roaming around in the Earth`s atmosphere.

It is likely to impact the thicker parts of the atmosphere and burn up sometime late on Sunday, according to orbital tracking experts.

The Russian space agency says little of the probe will survive to the surface.

It calculates no more than 200kg in maybe 20-30 fragments.

Precisely where on the Earth's surface - and when - this material could impact is impossible to say, however. There are huge uncertainties in forecasting the final moments of a re-entry.

"The major uncertainty for prediction is the atmospheric density the spacecraft encounters in orbit, but it's also due to the orientation of the vehicle as it comes in," explained Prof Richard Crowther, the UK Space Agency's chief engineer.

"It can very quickly tumble and if pieces break off - that all changes the trajectory and where debris might impact."

This is the third high-profile spacecraft re-entry in four months, following the return in September of the American UARS satellite and the German Rosat telescope in October. Both fell over the ocean.
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#2 by Eddie267 » Sun Jan 15, 2012 02:29

Hope nobody gets hit, why can't it just hit the ocean.
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#3 by Jamesrudy » Sun Jan 15, 2012 02:56

yeah, Eddie, hopefully, it won't hit populated area, Indonesia has been identified to be on the trajectory.

updated news

Space.com reports a Russian Federal Space Agency (Roscosmos) release that today,
January 15, 2012, at 4:51 PM EST (2151 GMT) its 14-ton spacecraft crippled in Earth's
orbit will fall into a region west of Chile in the Pacific Ocean. Some 30 fragments
weighing up to 200 kilograms (440 pounds) could survive burn up. Russia's
$165-million Phobos-Grunt mission launched on Nov. 9, 2011, but became trapped
in an Earth-bound orbit instead of its planned launch to the Martian moon
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#4 by Jamesrudy » Sun Jan 15, 2012 08:12

January 14

By Jan. 14, Russian space agency shifted the expected impact area for the debris from Phobos-Grunt reentry to the Southern Pacific, off the coast of Chile. The spacecraft was now expected to crash around 21:51 Moscow Time on Jan. 15. The impact area shifted half way around the world in the past three days, however with the perigee (lowest point) of the probe's orbit located around 46 degrees South latitude, forecasters narrowed down the reentry and impact area for Phobos-Grunt somewhere over South America.

By the end of the day Roskosmos issued another statement predicting the time of the Phobos-Grunt impact during an interval from January 15, at 18:36 Moscow Time to Jan. 16, at 02:24 Moscow Time (9:36 a.m. to 5:24 p.m. EST Sunday).

January 15

Soon after mid-day Moscow Time on January 15, Roskosmos posted a communique narrowing down Phobos-Grunt's crash time to an interval from January 15, at 20:41 Moscow Time to Jan. 16, at 01:05 Moscow Time (11:41 a.m. to 4:05 p.m. EST Sunday). Yet another update published around 19:00 Moscow Time (10 a.m. EST) narrowed the impact time to a period between 21:30 and 23:12 Moscow Time (12:30 p.m. - 3:12 p.m. EST).
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#5 by Jamesrudy » Sun Jan 15, 2012 08:45

Russian Academy of Sciences expert Igor Marinin told NTV television.

"But you will get pretty fireworks,"

At last Roscosmos admits that the impact location will depend on varying circumstances such as atmospheric density and even solar activity.
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#6 by Jamesrudy » Sun Jan 15, 2012 19:56

After languishing in Earth orbit for more than two months, the 14.5-ton Phobos-Grunt spacecraft fell at around 12:45 p.m. EST (1745 GMT) Sunday, apparently slamming into the atmosphere over a stretch of the southern Pacific off the coast of Chile, Russian officials told the Ria Novosti news agency.

"Phobos-Grunt fragments have crashed down in the Pacific Ocean," Alexei Zolotukhin, an official with Russia's Defense Ministry, was quoted by Ria Novosti as saying. Zolotukhin said that the spacecraft crashed about 776 miles (1,250 kilometers) west of the island of Wellington, the news agency reported.
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#7 by valerie » Sun Jan 15, 2012 21:57

Ya I saw it on the news. Good it did not land in the city.
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