You can never take from Peter to pay Paul and expect it to last.
At some point, they all go POOF!

There are different ways people justify these types of programs. You know what they are.

But here is the line for me. I know it's going down. I know it from the first day it launches.
So if I partake of something like that, it's on me and that is it.
But if I partake of something like that and I promote it and bring others in to it, what does that make me?
That's the problem I have.

Like I said, people do justify in various ways. Some might say, it's just a risk as in a risk with any type of program.

In reality what it is, and there is no way around this because everyone knows it's true, the reality is, you are promoting a program that is an illegal ponzi scheme. There is nothing legal about it period.

Personally, I don't care what people do or what they partake in. I am the one that has to live with me.

Recently a person I have known online sent me an email about another program that is often promoted in CS,
that is basically a peter paul program. It does have some legalness to it but it is also illegal in the legal world of
things. It is trying it's best to be legal, they do have lawyers onboard. But at this moment, it is in fact illegal.
Well I told that person I was not joining, that I was already familiar with it, and that basically it was a scam.
So he gets mad at me and emails back telling me I have a way of making him feel small, down talking to him.
He goes on to say all the leaders are in and bla bla bla. So I reply back, it's his own problem if he feels I am
talking down to him. I certainly did not intend to make my brief message sound like some sort of direct
down on his brain. I simply said I was not interested, already familiar with it, and it is basically a scam.
However, I went on to wish him luck with it and told him to do his research since he was asking me why
I thought it was a scam.

I tell ya, I don't know where people get off on thinking that I or anyone for that matter, owes them anything.
Like I owe them a book report. Like I have time to sit here and write a novel message to thousands of
people every day. The next thing I know, I am getting a phone call from one of my GDI upline that is
also the biggest spammer online that I know of. He says I gave 'Dennis' an ear full about ___ program
being a scam. I said WO wait just a minute and I stated what I said to 'Dennis'. The next thing I know,
the so called 'leader' on the phone is calling me a nut case. That is exactly what he said 'you are some
sort of a nut case'. I hung up on him.

That same so called leader, that spams the internet, steals GDI members from other lines, is who
'Dennis' is relying on for credible information. Dennis tells me, he is working with REAL leaders.
Well I told 'Dennis' to please never contact me again. Because for starters, I have never in my
entire life professed to be a leader in anything online or offline. Secondly, I know what the word
'no' and 'i am not interested' means. I don't go telling people I feel talked down to simply because
they won't join under me in something and I certainly don't go telling other people to call them
and bug the shit of them and tell them they are a nut case because they would not join.

Bottomline, I am truthful with people but not all people want to hear the truth. They prefer to
hear what they want to hear and follow the people that will tell them what they want to hear.

And if you or anyone wants to join JBP or any other peter paul program, that is your business.
I don't care. All I can say is good luck and be careful. It's on your head, not mine.

I heard something about them doing a reset over there. Whatever that means.

jwyblejr wrote: I heard something about them doing a reset over there. Whatever that means.

I got the email too. Yes they are about to do a reset. They claim any one who invests today and onwards will not be affected by the reset. I still don't understand the reset process fully.

Again, I don't recommend anyone invest in any HYI program. I've just been working with the free $10 they give out.

Justbeenpaid is a great program and its working for me...the money i make from Justbeenpaid i invested it back into my referrals cause they are the one that causes my matrices to cycle...

valerie wrote: Fred has been working online a very very long time. The first I came to know of him was way back in 1999.
He's done a lot of various programs online and been involved with various programs.

I'm not going to say anything about him, good or bad.

I am telling you, 'be careful'.

lol ! Diplomacy 101.

Actually, google is your best friend ! Google this individual and his programs and the current program and you will be able to make a good decision.

This is not to say that these programs can make people money, but people should understand the business model they are investing in more so than the money they are making. But I guess this is a very difficult step for some and so as long as people keep joining these programs, so long will there be HYIPs, cycler, matrix, and all this utter rubbish that run several times under new names !

dwaynespo wrote: Justbeenpaid is a great program and its working for me...the money i make from Justbeenpaid i invested it back into my referrals cause they are the one that causes my matrices to cycle...

You are really lucky to get good referrals on these type of sites. Last matrix site that I joined I had several level deep filled - people joined and never sent their payment, result ? my downline level got deeper but NOT a single paying member, result, earning commissions diminish as your downline gets deeper, I will not name the site here, the admin who runs it is a cheating, lying, known scammer from the past who ran other sites..... Lost $2.50, was scammed by the same sponsor who asked me to join his team here From that lesson i have learned never EVER again to touch matrix or cyclers no matter how much they claim they are legit or sustainable, that is all bollox.

JSS is nothing but a ponzi.
There is no product which is being sold when you invest there. You are just buying "positions" for every $10. You cannot advertise on their site so just think how are they paying those 2% daily interest for every position if they are not generating any revenue?
Its simple. The owner is playing with your money. He keeps the profit and shares a portion of it with the members. But, when there are no funds to pay out members, they do a "restart" unlike other HYIPs who run away with your money.

Thats all I have to say in short and simple words.

I admit,I signed up there before I came back here. I figured the ten bucks was free to invest and I had nothing to lose. Well,it ended for me today and I wound up with a grand total of.......$5. I think I'll stick with ClixSense.

jwyblejr wrote: I admit,I signed up there before I came back here. I figured the ten bucks was free to invest and I had nothing to lose. Well,it ended for me today and I wound up with a grand total of.......$5. I think I'll stick with ClixSense.

Lol. I was quick to multiply the $10. I think they had a glitch in their system and that allowed me to keep the $10 for more than 60 without them deducting it. They later deducted it 90 days later, but it was too late I now have 3 $10 positions all FREE. lol. I don't like HYIPS, but hey, I'm working with a free $10 position that multiplied to 3 $10 positions. ($30)

Once again, I say to all Clixsense members, stay away from HYIPS, I do not like them, I am just experimenting with JBP because of the free $10 position.

JBP is the best HYIP ever. Its already been around for more than one year and everyone in this forum do not understand how JBP even works yet you all feel the need to come and say negative things about it. As with any online earning oppertunity their is a risk. Even if the earning system is not run as a ponzi you still run the risk of the owner keeping all the money and running.

If you had done your homework before coming and saying things you know nothing about (JBP) you would know this site will be around for a very long time.

When I first joined this site I hated it, the look the difficault navigation etc. but now I use JBP I think its amazing.

This site can keep paying members because it has two parts not just the tripler part that everyone seems to be talking about here. The jss-tripler (2% daily) part is a ponzi scheme and the owner does not deny that fact but it can keep paying its members because when the fund get low it goes into restart. When JBP goes into a restart they pay some of your $10.00 JSS-Positions remaining cash owed to $15.00 they then use these funds to purchase you JSS Matrixes and thats the problem solved for them running out of cash. They dont convert your JSS-Triplers if your account is not yet in profit, you will keep earning as usual. If you are in profit they will convert up to 40% of your JSS-Triplers to JSS Matrix but it usually about 10%. The matrix system earns JBP money which they then use to pay admin costs and the rest goes back into paying the JSS-Trippler Positions. You will also earn $60.00 for each of your JSS Matrxes that cycle. JSS Matrixes take about 2 - 4 weeks to cycle. They also sell merchandise for other streams of revenue and as JBP keeps climbing up the Alexa ladder they will be able to sell advertisement at a very high price (JBP dont advertise yet but they are going to soon).

Someone also mentioned that when you purchase a JSS-Position you are purchasing nothing well that is also wrong, you are purchasing credits for the traffic exchange on the JBP site.

Well for the non believers keep watching and see how long JBP is around. I now earn $60 every single day and that's me only cashing out 30% and reinvesting 70% of my daily earnings from my JSS-Trippler Positions. I also earn massive amounts from my JSS Matrixes cycling and guess what I pulled out my original investment months ago so even if it turned scam now I'm still in massive profit. Like every online earning opportunity you have risk like the ones you are all using now.

I think you should all stop giving negative feedback about JBP because none of you even know how this site work. You should not write about things you dont even know about.

JBP is alright and I too have changed my mind about it, although I will never invest anything in it. My referrals on JBP bought over $500 in positions earning me $50 in commissions along with the free $10 they give out. I used that money to purchase positions and currently have 12 positions earning me $2.4/ day. I have withdrawn several times already. So I went from investing $0 to having 12 positions worth $120 paying me $2.4/day. Since I never invested anything and since I am being paid by them, I no longer have anything negative to say about them. I don't think this will last forever though, even though they have a "restart" feature. Bloggers have estimated it will die out after an average of 12 years with the "restart" feature being the feature that keeps them alive for so long.

Well if they do disappear I don't mind since I invested $0 and have $120 worth of positions, as long as I keep on receiving my withdrawals, I am happy.

@artexgold
thats great and Im glad it works for you. You are right the site cant last forever because restarts will become more frequent as the JSS-Triplers (liabilities) become much more for the site to pay everyday.

Lets just get as much out off the program while it pays and I think we still have along time here

Ya, try to get as much as you can before it goes down.
That way you can line your pockets and not worry about all the money you are spending that was given to you by the losers.

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