valerie wrote: ClixSense does not own the survey companies. It's doubtful any survey company will see your post here.
Thank goodness they don't (evil grin!)
They would hate my guts !
Although I made them a ship loads of money over the years and several thousands of $ earned from surveys, so I'd like to see them say anything
I worked in health care most my life....and man oh man I sure know it! I usually can only sleep 5 hours per
night. My back hurts if I stand for more than thirty minutes at a time.
Ohhh I hear you ! You need some tough veins to work in the industry, let alone the people you GOT to deal with that are not always..........easy to deal with.
I never consider online earnings a job but a supplement to income. I think your point is valid but I also think the original poster has a valid point and frustration. Of course it is unfair to be directing the blame on CS because they rely on network sites to handle these surveys and to get paid, but the frustration is there. There is a lot of BAD things going on with SOME survey companies. The same is seen constantly with CrowdFlower tasks, only difference is that tasks pay you for the work you manage to do before being rear ended and flagged unfairly
He has a point - Yes with surveys you will never get paid 100%, you can't compare it with a job, the surveys don't employ you but it is trial and error. Who to blame ?
- The networks that manage the surveys.
- The companies that provide the traffic redirection and routing services
- The survey panel who provide the services to these affiliate network sites
- The geniuses who build the survey script in the first place
- The geniuses (trying to be polite) project managers who are SUPPOSED to oversee every step of the process.
ClixSense and the member are on the same level, when a member gets SCAMMED, so does CS, there is NOTHING CS can do but complain to their network manager and since there are so many people involved with these surveys, everyone will pass the blame.......RESULT ? You have a choice to ACCEPT being scammed from time to time or not do ANY surveys..........but the times you do get scammed, it's good to expose things and complain, sometimes when CS relates the info to their aff. manager, things can be resolved as it did with some offers not crediting, otherwise if you are silent nothing gets done..........in some cases complaining won't resolve anything but at least you get the message out there. People not getting credit for some survey offers should NOT in no way discourage them to continue doing surveys unless they have a really low credit ratio. Otherwise if it were the case I'd be long gone in an asylum !
I worked at a cookie factory once running a huge mile long oven. It was computerized and believe me, unless
you have ran an oven like that, you would not believe the difficulty of running the computer for it. I had an entire
notebook of gobly goop settings for it. You ever eat grahams, saltines, cheese it's, fig newtons, etc....well they
came thru the oven I ran at that time. Talk about HOT!!! Oh my gosh, people would hire on and as soon as they
got in the plant, they turned around and walked right back out from the HEAT! Huge hot oil bats, Huge dumps,
lol - all this talk about cookies (FIG newton ? LOL oh I would eat boxes of that when I was a kid !) you are making me hungry with all this talk about cookies, now that I am on a 0 sugar, very low carb diet! EEEK!
and my gosh, work work work, hot hot hot, heat heat heat, grease grease grease. I worked the night shift and
when I got home in the mornings, I had to strip totally naked at the back porch. I was like a walking oil can.
Yes but Valerie, your comparaison is not fair. You got PAID for your jobs right ? Regardless of the pain and difficulty, you were paid for all those long hours. First of all working in a cookie factory I would have gone completely crazy out of my mind back then I had a wild sweeth tooth and those fig newtons would have really killed me.......
Anyhow, unless you are earning huge money here, or more than what you earned at the cookie factory, you can't really compare. I'd rather bust my arse and earn money than consider a PTC a job on pennies a day and a few bucks of surveys......online earnings NEVER become a job, never, not when done as a member of a GPT or PTC, unless you are running a business online. Here in my country, even if I were to be making $25k a year from surveys and GPT, I would be considered POOR down the barrel !
I worked helping hot tar roofs back in my very younger years. My first husband was a roofer. I'd help him just
like a man would. We did shingles and altho I couldn't pack them up the ladder, I'd get on the hot roofs and nail
them down. That was hot work and rather knee breaking too.
I worked construction too. My second husband had his own construction crew. Some times guys would call
in and he'd run short handed so I'd get out there and work just like a man would.
You're a tough cookie Valerie !
(no pun intended!)
Daily surveys, for me, it's not work. When I sit on my arse, clicking yes or no, or watching ads or a video, it's
not anything close to work for me. Aggravating at times, yep. Work, nope, does not even come close.
Good point, but sometimes the aggravation, stress and frustration of online earnings can far exceed all jobs combined especially when the "unfair" factor comes into play. When a company promises a member an incentive for dongi a survey or offer, legally, it is a contract binding between 2 parties. Failure for the party to honour said contract becomes a braech of contract and therefore a company (the survey company / network) has obtained and collected information from the said member freely without providing payment as stated in the agreement of the offer which represents the contract, therefore FRAUD was committed, if the network/company after several complaints has not resolved the issue or given an explanation within a reasonable amount of time. Companies get away with this .... well you know
because they know that people won't fight for such low amounts, but it is perfectly legit and understandable for people to complain and be highly frustrated for not being paid for somethign they were told they would be paid for !
I think you both have valid points, however, the only solution, if you can call it a solution, since there is nothing that can be done, is to keep trying and accept the fact one will not get credit or be booted out of a survey for nor eason etc.........guess it's part of the industry, one of many industry that are corrupted and/or poorly managed.
I will not name names, but I used to know a person who actually worked for one of the networks, going way back, and another person who knew some managers and people way high up, and having worked myself in the industry, I can tell you there is a LOT of corruption........Luckily I have always worked for honest, reputable market research firm back then. I've also known GPT site owners whom I helped back then and they themselves reported to me all the crap that goes on in the industry.
Problem is this - There is not ONE company you can avoid - Surveys are hosted by so many different hosts, on a daily basis. So one day you may be scammed by one, does not mean the next day you will deal with the same survey host........So far in my experience, I have noticed that most of them are ok and credits are given, which is why I'm still here, and always report the offer that do not give me credit, in hopes maybe something can be done, and at least I tried.
Try to get to those survey panel and network or top managers and it is basically like talking to a brick wall.
Some will admit there is a problem and resolve it, others, won't..........