Since you are sure that a serious member can make $100 per year only by clicking ads, I assume that there should be some members who did that. Just give us some examples from this forum to verify what you say and to motivate us because I couldn’t find any.

What I see as a standard member is that I can earn in average around 0.022 (2.2 cents) per day and this is around $8 per year and no I’m not from a tier 1 country

But you are from a tier 1 country and therefore most of the members have fewer ads than you and we all know that the geo-targeted ads pay more than the others. So, it would be interesting to know your earnings after you deduct the cost of the membership and after you deduct your earnings from the demographically filtered ads

And no doubt there is absolutely no way to earn $600 yearly from clicking ads here as someone stated before and personally I seriously doubt that a member who is not from a tier 1 country can earn more than $20 per year from clicking ads after we deduct the yearly cost of the membership if he has upgraded

chefkang wrote: Since you are sure that a serious member can make $100 per year only by clicking ads, I assume that there should be some members who did that. Just give us some examples from this forum to verify what you say and to motivate us because I couldn’t find any.

What I see as a standard member is that I can earn in average around 0.022 (2.2 cents) per day and this is around $8 per year and no I’m not from a tier 1 country

But you are from a tier 1 country and therefore most of the members have fewer ads than you and we all know that the geo-targeted ads pay more than the others. So, it would be interesting to know your earnings after you deduct the cost of the membership and after you deduct your earnings from the demographically filtered ads

And no doubt there is absolutely no way to earn $600 yearly from clicking ads here as someone stated before and personally I seriously doubt that a member who is not from a tier 1 country can earn more than $20 per year from clicking ads after we deduct the yearly cost of the membership if he has upgraded

$100 per year divided by 12 months = $8.33 per month.

If you are in a country that never gets any ads, then of course, you would not make anything at all.
There is guaranteed ads and as a premium member, I think you are guaranteed a few more per day than a standard member.

However, for most members, it's going to make a huge difference in their decision to click ads or not click ads.

Also, a lot really does depend on how much you use ClixSense in regards to viewing ads.
I'm sure a lot of members only log on, once per day whereas other members log on multiple times per day.
It does make a difference in regards to how active you are each day.

100/12=$8.33 per month indeed, but I'm still waiting to see some examples of those who made $100 per year only by clicking ads after the expenses (if any) have been deducted because I keep looking for them at the forum but I cannot find anyone and I start believing that it's not possible. Actually the examples should be users who are not from a tier 1 country to represent fairly an average user

Because this topic is about the solo clickers, let’s do some math

Upgraded members get 4 guaranteed ads per day instead of 1 that standard members get and this means 3 more guaranteed ads per day for $0.01 each one. Therefore $0.03*365=$10.95 more per year than standard members but they have to pay $17 per year for the upgrade so they will end up with (minus) -$6.05 at the end of the year if they click only all their guaranteed ads. The click values are the same in both cases and so the only way for the solo clicker premium member to cover the $6.05 difference is by clicking premium filtered ads.

Because I really doubt that an upgraded member will be lucky enough to catch about 605 or more premium filtered ads per year it seems for the solo clicker like the upgrade doesn’t really help and actually it will probably lead to a loss.

chefkang wrote: 100/12=$8.33 per month indeed, but I'm still waiting to see some examples of those who made $100 per year only by clicking ads after the expenses (if any) have been deducted because I keep looking for them at the forum but I cannot find anyone and I start believing that it's not possible. Actually the examples should be users who are not from a tier 1 country to represent fairly an average user

Because this topic is about the solo clickers, let’s do some math

Upgraded members get 4 guaranteed ads per day instead of 1 that standard members get and this means 3 more guaranteed ads per day for $0.01 each one. Therefore $0.03*365=$10.95 more per year than standard members but they have to pay $17 per year for the upgrade so they will end up with (minus) -$6.05 at the end of the year if they click only all their guaranteed ads. The click values are the same in both cases and so the only way for the solo clicker premium member to cover the $6.05 difference is by clicking premium filtered ads.

Because I really doubt that an upgraded member will be lucky enough to catch about 605 or more premium filtered ads per year it seems for the solo clicker like the upgrade doesn’t really help and actually it will probably lead to a loss.

My topic is not about convincing anyone or having anyone step forward with proof of what they do.
This topic is in relation to how much I have earned clicking ads over the years and how much I would have earned if I had continuously clicked ads over the years. This topic is also about how members in general can earn much more, simply clicking ads, if they click actively.

This topic is not about how many guaranteed ads one gets whether standard or premium.

Tier 1 countries may get more ads to view in general. However, I don't believe that is always true.
It seems most of what is advertised in CS, is free and international. So not sure how much targeting is going on in that arena.

Me tooo upgraded my membership i getting per day 7ads or 10 ads only earning very low but i invested $17 feb now april my total earning $8.26 only think last year since october to now really iam tired i hate country based target mostly my referrals all clicked 3days and lefet the clicking because here waste time task the giving 3cents per 3page task work but it will take time more otherwise it will come wrong how is it iam not earned here

The main reason to upgrade on ClixSense should be to earn higher affiliate commissions, not to earn a few a cents more daily from guaranteed ads. That should never be the approach else you will be disappointed for sure.

For a $17 upgrade you are getting $14.60 worth guaranteed ads in the entire year along with 1000 welcome ad credits worth $2.40
So that $17 is paying for itself eventually. So you are getting the following for FREE!!! - Double affiliate commissions from Level 1, 8-level upgrade commission plan, higher sales commission, 2.4 times Daily Checklist bonus and Double ClixGrid chances daily.

ptcscrutiny wrote: The main reason to upgrade on ClixSense should be to earn higher affiliate commissions, not to earn a few a cents more daily from guaranteed ads. That should never be the approach else you will be disappointed for sure.

For a $17 upgrade you are getting $14.60 worth guaranteed ads in the entire year along with 1000 welcome ad credits worth $2.40
So that $17 is paying for itself eventually. So you are getting the following for FREE!!! - Double affiliate commissions from Level 1, 8-level upgrade commission plan, higher sales commission, 2.4 times Daily Checklist bonus and Double ClixGrid chances daily.

Yes true valerie post is little misleading adds etc are for Tier A Tier C,D countries should not upgrade just for Adds unless they wanna do tasks,Offers or Refer members !

With All Due Respect, But I Beg to Differ…. I hope this is not considered as blasphemy.

First of all, I ENJOY clicking , and thats really matters for me. It is more fun -- say compared to Mafia Wars -- which I once was addicted to.

I make about US $ 0.02 - 0.03 a day by clicking only, and that is more than enough for me. My link is slow, and I have to pay about US $ 5 a month for that link (2 GB Quota). Clicking is time consuming using that slow link, and for sure I will make much less of the minimum wage (US $ 7.25 an hour). I am also slow, and therefore it is not so worth doing the Tasks.

Therefore, I am happy without being a premium Member.

valerie wrote: My topic is not about convincing anyone or having anyone step forward with proof of what they do.

Strange...

The title says: 'Proof of how much you can make.'

Who exactly is 'you'? and where is exactly the proof about how much they can make

Then in the text in the first post you talk clearly about solo clicking and you make a bold statement: 'as an upgraded member, can make about $100 a year, viewing ads, even IF they did absolutely nothing else, no referrals, nada'

Clearly it's a statement about the average premium user and not you
But where is the proof for that statement

ptcscrutiny wrote: For a $17 upgrade you are getting $14.60 worth guaranteed ads in the entire year along with 1000 welcome ad credits worth $2.40

$14.60 is misleading because $3.65 you have as standard members anyway. You only get 3 more guaranteed ads with the upgrade

Plus the welcome ad credits while it's a good bonus, it has zero value for those who have nothing to advertise

ptcscrutiny wrote: So that $17 is paying for itself eventually.

So you are wrong.

What Valerie is trying to say is that do not ignore the PTC ads. Many members think its not worth it to click those $0.001 ads. Some don't even click the guaranteed $0.01 ads despite being online and checking their ClixSense account.
While it may not be worth a lot individually, it does add up over time as Valerie points out in her stats. The number will obviously vary according the user's demographic location, like for instance I have so far earned $59.84 from my personal PTC clicks.
Its just a suggestion and no one is forcing you click those ads.

chefkang wrote:

ptcscrutiny wrote: For a $17 upgrade you are getting $14.60 worth guaranteed ads in the entire year along with 1000 welcome ad credits worth $2.40

$14.60 is misleading because $3.65 you have as standard members anyway. You only get 3 more guaranteed ads with the upgrade

Plus the welcome ad credits while it's a good bonus, it has zero value for those who have nothing to advertise

ptcscrutiny wrote: So that $17 is paying for itself eventually.

So you are wrong.

Now you are just ripping it apart
Like I said, its better to upgrade only if you are looking for higher affiliate commissions or for the higer Daily Checklist Bonus. Don't upgrade just to click 3 extra $0.01 ads daily.

ptcscrutiny wrote: What Valerie is trying to say is that do not ignore the PTC ads. Many members think its not worth it to click those $0.001 ads. Some don't even click the guaranteed $0.01 ads despite being online and checking their ClixSense account.
While it may not be worth a lot individually, it does add up over time as Valerie points out in her stats. The number will obviously vary according the user's demographic location, like for instance I have so far earned $59.84 from my personal PTC clicks.
Its just a suggestion and no one is forcing you click those ads.

chefkang wrote:

ptcscrutiny wrote: For a $17 upgrade you are getting $14.60 worth guaranteed ads in the entire year along with 1000 welcome ad credits worth $2.40

$14.60 is misleading because $3.65 you have as standard members anyway. You only get 3 more guaranteed ads with the upgrade

Plus the welcome ad credits while it's a good bonus, it has zero value for those who have nothing to advertise

ptcscrutiny wrote: So that $17 is paying for itself eventually.

So you are wrong.

Now you are just ripping it apart
Like I said, its better to upgrade only if you are looking for higher affiliate commissions or for the higer Daily Checklist Bonus. Don't upgrade just to click 3 extra $0.01 ads daily.

Thanks. Because that is exactly what I mean.
Of course members will make much more by doing surveys, doing tasks, referring others that are active, etc.

I'm not saying that if you upgrade a slew of money is going to fall into every member's lap here simply by
clicking ads. Of course it depends on where you are, how often you log in daily to click ads, who the advertiser
targets, etc.

I will tell you what I do generally. After the cron runs at CS (the time changes to the next day), ads come in.
I click all the ads that come in. I also try to click at least 15 ads in the ClixGrid. I then go to the forum and
check posts. What's happen is that within a few minutes of the time change, I have completed most of my
checklist bonus and I have as stated, clicked all the ads that were there for me to click. I do all that within
just minutes of ClixSense beginning it's day. The actual time of day is midnight where I sit. It's usually not
too long after that I go to bed. When I wake up, (keep in mind it is still the same day), I log into CS and there
is most always more ads there to click and I click those. I keep CS open 24/7 and thru-out my day I click
ads from time to time when I see them. This varies of course since I am not always home or busy else where.

Just for the record, I don't care who upgrades or who doesn't. I truly do not give a rats. That's up to the
individual and their own situation. Most active members are going to make a lot more viewing ads as a
premium member than a standard member. That almost goes without saying because advertisers do tend
to target premium members with their paid offers over free members. Hence, more ads to view.

Thank you ptcscrutiny for basically confirming that it doesn't worth to upgrade as a solo clicker. Coincidentally this is the exactly opposite than what the first post says. By the way affiliate commissions are great only if you can get some referrals (and many cannot). The daily checklist bonus cannot be completed many times especially for members who are not from a tier 1 country, plus the pay rate for the tasks and the matomy / supersonic / tokenads offers (both part of the daily checklist bonus) is not generous at the very least since the same tasks and offers pay more in other sites combined with higher affiliate commissions for offers and tasks than what gives and even without the need of a paid membership. And because I like to talk with real facts if you wish I can easily bring screenshots showing the same tasks and the same offers pay more in another site than what pays

This is what valerie said in the first post exactly in her own words:
'if you want to make money at clixsense and make very good profit, you really should upgrade.
Upgrading does not mean doing nothing. It means upgrading every year, clicking the ads every day as your
time allows, you will in fact make good profits even with 0 referrals."

Until now the only one who talks with specific data about upgrading as a solo clicker it's me and it seems that her conclusion is actually a false one. So please don't try to tell me what valerie is trying to say because I know what I read

It's somewhat funny how valerie doesn't reply to specific questions. As anyone can see there are many specific questions in my previous posts related directly with what she wrote in the first post without a reply. The title and the first post are both misleading in my opinion and it's strange because it was created by a moderator so my expectations were high. Maybe it shouldn't

All in all, I like but I don't like seeing posts supporting unrealistic expectations especially when it comes from a moderator

chefkang wrote: Thank you ptcscrutiny for basically confirming that it doesn't worth to upgrade as a solo clicker. Coincidentally this is the exactly opposite than what the first post says. By the way affiliate commissions are great only if you can get some referrals (and many cannot). The daily checklist bonus cannot be completed many times especially for members who are not from a tier 1 country, plus the pay rate for the tasks and the matomy / supersonic / tokenads offers (both part of the daily checklist bonus) is not generous at the very least since the same tasks and offers pay more in other sites combined with higher affiliate commissions for offers and tasks than what gives and even without the need of a paid membership. And because I like to talk with real facts if you wish I can easily bring screenshots showing the same tasks and the same offers pay more in another site than what pays

This is what valerie said in the first post exactly in her own words:
'if you want to make money at clixsense and make very good profit, you really should upgrade.
Upgrading does not mean doing nothing. It means upgrading every year, clicking the ads every day as your
time allows, you will in fact make good profits even with 0 referrals."

Until now the only one who talks with specific data about upgrading as a solo clicker it's me and it seems that her conclusion is actually a false one. So please don't try to tell me what valerie is trying to say because I know what I read

It's somewhat funny how valerie doesn't reply to specific questions. As anyone can see there are many specific questions in my previous posts related directly with what she wrote in the first post without a reply. The title and the first post are both misleading in my opinion and it's strange because it was created by a moderator so my expectations were high. Maybe it shouldn't

All in all, I like but I don't like seeing posts supporting unrealistic expectations especially when it comes from a moderator

I gave you a 'like' on this post simply because you go a little deeper in stating not everyone can earn much simply by clicking ads. And this would absolutely be true, no matter what country you are from, unless you are a very active member. Very active in that you consistently check for ads to click.

In regards to answering questions, I try to answer questions to the best of my ability.
Unfortunately, I don't have time to write a book or answer every question in every post.
I read very quickly and type even quicker.
Moderators are not staff nor admins.
Moderators are affiliates that simply have offered to help out in the forums.

In regards to unrealistic expectations, I don't think my post is unrealistic. However, much more can come into play depending on how active or non-active you are. My post is speaking of my own proof and my own experience and I didn't just join last year.