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#1 by Piddles » Sat Jul 13, 2013 19:05

I am not sure if anyone else was watching this.
He was found Not Guilty..


I have my own opinions about this and it was not to let him walk free.. :thumbdown:
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#2 by sp1915 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 19:15

He should have walked...right into prison!

(Hope he doesn't move into my neighborhood with his gun.)
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#3 by TPhoenix » Sat Jul 13, 2013 19:41

I feel absolutely sick to my stomach. My night is ruined. What the hell happened to the US criminal justice system and why is it so faulted? I mean someone can kill a dog and go to jail, but someone else can kill a teen and get acquitted? Makes zero logical sense.
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#4 by Piddles » Sat Jul 13, 2013 19:42

I am just shocked that he got NOTHING.. Even when the police said "do not follow him".. Just shocked is all..It made me think of Casey Anthony :o
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#5 by grandmomdiva » Sat Jul 13, 2013 20:17

He took a life! Period! How was it self defense when HE HAD THE GUN AND HE DISREGARDED THE INSTRUCTIONS GIVEN HIM BY THE 911 OPERATOR ("do not get out of your car, the police are being dispatched")!! SO HE TOOK A LIFE NOT IN SELF DEFENSE BUT DURING AN ALTERCATION IN WHICH HE WAS THE AGGRESSOR...Mr. Zimmerman, if you are a religious man, you know the deal: an eye for an eye. Does not matter that man's law found you not guilty. "VENGENCE IS MINE saith the LORD"....WAIT FOR IT, WAIT FOR IT; I expect to hear more about you in the future....BAD THINGS - WATCH AND WAIT...
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#6 by Piddles » Sat Jul 13, 2013 23:11

It was soooooooooooo wrong.. I am right there with you TPhoenix, my tummy started to ache and turn.. I just can not understand why a 17yr old who is not living and nothing, not one thing was done to Zimmerman.
Adding child abuse? He should have at least got that.
Karama is a **** and grandmomdiva,, yep an eye for an eye.
I am sure we will hear more about him..
A movie deal.. I will never watch it to make him money!
A book deal.. I will never buy that either!
I am sure I can make a list of what may come in the future, but why, as I will always end it with I will never!

Let's see what our Justice system will do again, or NOT do I should say...



edit to take out my curse word.
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#7 by sp1915 » Sun Jul 14, 2013 17:28

Justice Department To Review George Zimmerman, Trayvon Martin Case


07/14/13 04:02 PM ET EDT AP


WASHINGTON — The Justice Department says it is looking into the shooting death of Trayvon Martin to determine whether federal prosecutors should file criminal civil rights charges now that George Zimmerman has been acquitted in the state case.

The department opened an investigation into Martin's death last year but stepped aside to allow the state prosecution to proceed.

In a statement Sunday, the Justice Department said the criminal section of the civil rights division, the FBI and the U.S. Attorney's office for the Middle District of Florida are continuing to evaluate the evidence generated during the federal probe, in addition to the evidence and testimony from the state trial.

The statement said that, in the government's words, "experienced federal prosecutors will determine whether the evidence reveals a prosecutable violation."


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#8 by manayonboy » Sun Jul 14, 2013 18:50

for me that's the verdict of all the juries who hear the trial
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#9 by valerie » Mon Jul 15, 2013 09:34

For those who do not know, states in the USA, have varying laws.
The state of Florida is very lax in many of their laws compared to other states.

Altho many people, political especially, tried to make this case about racism, it really wasn't at all.
Zimmerman stated on the phone with the 911 operator, he could not describe the young man at all.
It was a dark rainy night and Trayvon could have been green for all Zimmerman knew.

To be clear, the 911 operator is not the police. So, when the 911 operator told Zimmerman not to
follow the man, Zimmerman did not do what she said but he also did not legally break any rule because
it was not the law that told him not to follow the man, it was simply a 911 operator. Very big difference.

I believe the real secret or real question in this case is, who confronted who first and who started the
fighting first.

In the USA, people are entitled to protect themselves from harm. However, it's important to know who
the instigator is, exactly who started the fight (if you will) first.

Zimmerman, was a neighborhood watch community person. There had been some burglaries in the area
and Zimmerman obviously volunteered to keep an eye on the neighborhood for possible burglars.

I think Zimmerman was overzealous with his neighborhood watch position. On a dark, rainy night, young
Trayvon with his hoodie pulled over his head, leisurely walking a long in the rain, appeared out of place.
In other words, on a rainy night or even rainy day for that matter, people generally run or walk very quickly
to get out of the rain.

I never read or heard anyone state this during the trial but perhaps someone has, burglars love rainy nights!
I think many people know this. It's always been said that a thief will choose a rainy night to rob a place or
rob someone, over a nice full moon.

Zimmerman always carried a gun. He carried it every where except to his place of work. So it wasn't like
he was just sporting a gun so he could murder the first person that came along. That was not the case
either.

I believe the laws in Florida should be a little stiffer. I think Zimmerman was overzealous with the
neighborhood watch position. I also think WATCH means WATCH and does NOT mean CONFRONT/FOLLOW.
The 911 operator told Zimmerman the correct thing to do, don't follow him, the police will check it out.
So the first big mistake was Zimmerman did not follow the 911 operators instructions. Instead, he got
out of his car and continued to follow the young Trayvon.

According to witnesses, it was Trayvon on top of Zimmerman and even Trayvon's father initially stated
during police interrogation, it was not Trayvon's voice yelling for help.

It was stated that Trayvon had marijuana and an unknown substance in his system. I really didn't understand
the 'unknown substance' bit. I think most of us know that marijuana as a norm, results in more of a
relaxed stupor than anything else. People can get stoned all day long but that does not generally make
them into burglars. If marijuana was a deciding factor then most all of us should be in the electric chair.

Everyone really does need to understand, that this case is not about racism at all. There was also
insufficient evidence and probably most cases of this nature in the state of Florida would never gone
to trial.

Don't allow people in politics and racists to rule your heart and your decisions.

It's very sad this young man was killed, and it should have never happen. Trying to relate it to another
case of a man convicted for dog fights or the Anthony case, just does not cut it at all. This case has no
similarities at all to those cases.

I think people around the world should plainly be able to see, that new laws need to be engaged in
the state of Florida to prevent such a tragedy from ever happening again. I don't believe that Trayvon
died due the color of his skin. I don't believe it was murder. I believe it was paranoia between two
people that could have been totally prevented. Zimmerman should have never got out of his car
and followed Trayvon. That was the first big mistake right there.

Hopefully, this case will result in newer laws in the state of Florida that make it punishable to follow
someone. People can't go around following people just because they appear to be up to no good.

It's a very sad case indeed.

PS. I lived at Sanford Lake about 13/14 years ago. The people are outgoing and friendly. A nice area.
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#10 by Consigliere33 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 16:59

The American Justice system has spoken. Time to move on. Maybe one day the people who are so mad, angry and upset at this verdict, will apply those feelings to the inner city violence that happens everyday. Innocent people are killed everyday and I certainly don't see or read about people protesting or setting up marches. Give me a break people. You can't have it both ways. Time to move on. Keep those fake feelings to yourselves.
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#11 by MsTNTallie54 » Mon Jul 15, 2013 20:57

This is just wrong for so many reasons. If Trayvon had shot Zimmerman, he would have been in jail, post haste. He killed Trayvon, and his smile says it all. He killed an unarmed Black man and got off to do it to someone else's family. He may not be guilty to the Florida justice system, but he is guilty as sin in my opinion. Just like the family of Nicole Brown Simpson, they should sue him for wrongful death. Trayvon is the one who died, and he could care less. :o :o :o
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#12 by TPhoenix » Mon Jul 15, 2013 21:58

MsTNTallie54 wrote: This is just wrong for so many reasons. If Trayvon had shot Zimmerman, he would have been in jail, post haste. He killed Trayvon, and his smile says it all. He killed an unarmed Black man and got off to do it to someone else's family. He may not be guilty to the Florida justice system, but he is guilty as sin in my opinion. Just like the family of Nicole Brown Simpson, they should sue him for wrongful death. Trayvon is the one who died, and he could care less. :o :o :o

Exactly. This is not a case you can just drop, because what it now means by the evaluation of the incompetent and bias judge and jurors is that any young, unarmed man (mostly a stereotyped black man) in a hoodie can walk on Florida streets at night and he can be racially profiled as a criminal and any watchman can "play cop", approach him, kill him and turn around and claim they "stood their ground". What a stupid bag of BS. This case upsets me more than anything right now, and I hope the feds sue Zimmerman or gets him to serve time. That's the only way this stuff dies down.

What they need to put in the rulebook is that no one gets off the hook from a murder. Once they've killed someone, they've killed them. Jail time or charges! It doesn't matter how much, but they need to serve time as a consequence of their actions. But no, they did the complete opposite and even gave this man his gun back. Like WTF? To hell with Florida, I'll probably never visit there if they allow such cases like this to just end in vein.
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#13 by Piddles » Tue Jul 16, 2013 16:06

Oh good grief!

Let me correct myself. It was 911 operator not the police.

Also, I never said it was "just like the Casey Anthony" case. I was not relating the cases together. However, I have a right to my own opinion and I feel, Zimmerman and Anthony was BOTH let go from a wrong doing. So therefore, when Zimmerman was let free, it reminded me of the Anthony case.



If you all want you can google this case!
Sounds like Self Defense to me..
Florida Mom Gets 20-Years For Firing "Warning Shots" During Confrontation With Husband

Alexander, an African-American Florida woman, was sentenced to 20 years in prison in 2012 for shooting what she described as warning shots into a wall during a confrontation with her husband. Alexander’s lawyers claimed self-defense in the case, and said her husband had a history of abuse in their relationship. They invoked Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law, which gives people the right to use lethal force if they feel their life is threatened. The jury ultimately sided with prosecutors in deciding Alexander’s actions were not in self-defense.
Her sentencing fell under the guidelines of what’s known in Florida as the “10-20-Life” law, which set certain mandatory minimum sentences for crimes committed with a firearm. The law enacted in 1999 requires that any crime committed with a gun earns the perpetrator a minimum ten year sentence, as the Florida Department of Corrections explains. If the firearm is discharged, the convicted will receive a 20-year minimum sentence, and if shots fired from the gun injure or kill anyone, the minimum sentence is 25-years to life.
“When she [Alexander] discharges a firearm in the direction of human beings, the legislature says it’s dangerous,” Corey said, according to the Florida Times-Union. “And one of the reasons is because the bullet went through the wall where one of the children was standing. It happened to deflect up into the ceiling, but if it had deflected down it could have hit one of the children.”


I also watched an interview about this and the husband admitted he was abusive, to her and his other woman!
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#14 by Piddles » Tue Jul 16, 2013 16:08

Consigliere33 wrote: The American Justice system has spoken. Time to move on. Maybe one day the people who are so mad, angry and upset at this verdict, will apply those feelings to the inner city violence that happens everyday. Innocent people are killed everyday and I certainly don't see or read about people protesting or setting up marches. Give me a break people. You can't have it both ways. Time to move on. Keep those fake feelings to yourselves.

No fake feelings here..
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#15 by BabeRuth » Tue Jul 16, 2013 16:28

I guess your opinion was not based on facts, evidence and the laws according to the 5th amendment to the US Constitution.
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#16 by Piddles » Tue Jul 16, 2013 16:35

BabeRuth wrote: I guess your opinion was not based on facts, evidence and the laws according to the 5th amendment to the US Constitution.

I watched and heard every single thing in this trial. I heard all the facts as well and heard all the evidence.
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#17 by a1nipper » Tue Jul 16, 2013 17:57

The trial is over and he was found innocent by a jury of his peers. That is the American justice system. Fortunately for all of us we are not tried in a court of public opinion.
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