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#1 by jhonkartor » Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:34

I'm job less in these and i want to earn money online please help me and guide me how to in cress earning from Clixsense ???
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#2 by Darkstar2 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:44

jhonkartor wrote: I'm job less in these and i want to earn money online please help me and guide me how to in cress earning from Clixsense ???

Unfortunately my friend, these type of online earnings cannot replace a steady income from a job.
Lots of people make good money online but mostly involve skill / talent and lot of investments.

There are many other ways to earn online but earnings are volatile and depend on too many factors such as country, date of birth, interests, etc. Obviously you know about PTC and GPT, but these earnings are
volatile as well. Unfortunately there is not much ways to earn from a GPT for your country as most surveys
are targeted to US / CA / UK and very limited countries - Same for tasks. You can earn here from your own
ad clicks, attempting your luck at clixgrid and of course the biggest earning potential for you would be
direct referrals and earning upgrade commissions on all 8 levels, and offer/tasks on level 1.
Try to join some elite, long standing, STABLE sites, as many as you can, and get referrals to each. It is really not going to be easy.

There are many ways to earn online, you can have your own site, blog, write, submit your original content
to sites, software, games, mobile, etc.......providing you have talent and skill in such areas.

Whatever you do avoid high yield investment sites, as they are all ponzi scam, as well as BUX sites
that scam quickly. Beware of renting referrals on some sites that allow it as it is a good con to take your
money n the long run (some exceptions, but that is debatable!).

As far as Clixsense, in your particular case, referral earnings would be your biggest potential.

Try not to rely on one site alone for maximum earnings.

Best of luck.
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#3 by valerie » Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:49

Where there is a will, there is a way. That's what my grandmother always told me. She was correct.
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#4 by Darkstar2 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:21

valerie wrote: Where there is a will, there is a way. That's what my grandmother always told me. She was correct.

Normally this would apply to lots of things in life.........BUT....
It's more than that ......Let's be honest here, you need skill and talent. Of all the people earning big money online, outside the GPT/PTC arena, are people with extensive affiliate marketing skills, good promoters,
skilled trades, professionals, amazing talents. It is not just a question of good will and positive attitude, you
need to have every combination of these. Now I know you might say, well, get skill...... True. Talent and gifts you can't acquire, skill maybe, but out of reach for some people for many reasons, sometimes financial.

I think whilst having good will and being positive, one must be down to earth and realistic too.

Positive and will alone won't fill your wallet. If that were the case, there would be far less hungry people
in this world.

I am not just ranting but writing of extensive experience and what I observe around me lots....... Some people
barely lift a damn finger and succeed at everything effortlessly, whilst some people work their butts off and
have the foundation, but fail and fall flat everytime. Seems some evil / incompetent people make it and some
hard workers, honest, kind people have the worst bad luck.

It becomes VERY delicate and sometimes uncomfortable to tell someone that they can't earn the same way
because of their country, it is unfortunate that offers and tasks are not at reach of most international users
on PTCs, but that is a reality. You can have all the good will you want it won't bring those out of thin air.

Writing, reviewing, blogging, web sites, etc, again, requires talent and skill.

So what do you tell someone who has no gift / talent, trades/skill or capital to invest / earn online, or is in a country completely outside of the GPT market........Not saying it is impossible to earn, but if you have none of that, you just eliminated the great majority of ways to earn, and left with extremely limited and difficult choices.
Relying on income from referrals.
I rarely have heard of someone succeeding online or otherwise, without skill or talent.

Sure I have the will that I am going to win the lottery, been thinking positively for as long as I lived lol
but never win.

I have witnessed some of the most positive, strong willed individuals getting taken away by vicious diseases and cancers who led difficult lives health wise despite doing everything right (proper diet, exercise, happy, kind, positive...)

I also witnessed the opposite, some people not too positive, mostly negative, pessimistic, etc, who recovered from cancers, diseases, and who had lots of lucky breaks.

I don't believe in any of the laws of attraction bull-S. :D
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#5 by valerie » Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:38

For the most part, I don't believe it.

In other words, I whole heartedly believe what my grandmother always said.

The problem comes in when people don't want to do it. There is the problem, NO will.

There are those times in life that 'fate' seems to be the only logic to why things turn out the way they do.
I'll agree with you on that aspect.

There's people all over the world online, well almost all over the world, that have and are making very
good money.

There was a gal from China many years ago that worked online in the free to earn industry. She was
a teacher in China and taught English. She was in fact Chinese tho but obviously educated enough to
teach English. She started online in a PTR's and before you know it, she had a huge following online.
As far as I know, she never did any paid type programs. It was all free to earn stuff. She always had
the largest referral count in everything she was in. It wasn't long and she retired from teaching and
only worked online in the free industry. Eventually, she retired from that too after some years. Maybe
one of her skills was being able to understand English well and relay information to her Chinese speaking
organizations but she also had large followings from various countries, not just China.

When I had my coffee biz, I had a distributor that was from India I think....my memory may be wrong
on that, but I think India. He did not live in India but in the USA. I think he managed a hotel. Not sure.
One day his boss told him it was his way or the highway and he gave up online biz totally. Anyway, the
bottomline was boy oh boy could that man recruit. I don't know what the heck he had going for him but
he was like a referral magnet. :lol: I did communicate with him online, thru messages and finally one
time I spoke with him on the telephone....unfortunately his English was poor and I had a difficult time
understanding him. He was a natural in that people liked him. I don't know why or how but they did.
He had a huge following online and I don't have any idea how he accumulated the huge following. He
was not very online biz savy.
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#6 by Darkstar2 » Wed Oct 09, 2013 13:05

valerie wrote: For the most part, I don't believe it.

In other words, I whole heartedly believe what my grandmother always said.


Yes but we are in 2013, lots has changed ! :lol:

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The problem comes in when people don't want to do it. There is the problem, NO will.

We both agree there......But that does not apply to everyone. There is a difference between not WANTING
and not being able to for many reasons outside your control for reasons I mentioned in my long post. :)
I'm sure most people in life don't want to fail and want to succeed. IT IS TRUE that some people don't
work hard and expect things to fall from the sky, I agree, but that is not the case for everyone, Valerie,
I think it's important to look at this in a fair manner, looking at both sides of the coin, not just one.

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There are those times in life that 'fate' seems to be the only logic to why things turn out the way they do.
I'll agree with you on that aspect.

Oh thank Almighty God on that one ! :lol: :lol: :lol: You would have a lot of backing up and explanations to do otherwise. I mean I am convinced that you and many have come across situations in life where you have seen people the least deserving, get jobs, win money, get strings of good luck and succeed and yet the kindest people, most giving and charitable, most skilled and talented and most outgoing, positive, getting nothing,
falling flat, getting ill, going nowhere in life and being rejected........ If you said "no I haven't" then I would
not believe you, or I would say you were living in a different universe ! lol.

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There's people all over the world online, well almost all over the world, that have and are making very
good money.

You stated FACT, we both agree on this. Now, again, given your experience and presence online for so many years, you do know which type of people are making good money online, how and why....... See below:

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There was a gal from China many years ago that worked online in the free to earn industry. She was
a teacher in China and taught English. She was in fact Chinese tho but obviously educated enough to
teach English. She started online in a PTR's and before you know it, she had a huge following online.

No skill, no trade, no talent, no capital to invest online, you are very limited in what you can earn !
by PTR I assume you mean Paid to Refer, yes, even that requires skill to get the maximum benefits,
but you can do it regardless, yes this is aligned with my comment in my post, that earning from referrals / referring would be an alternative to those without the skill/talents. Keep in mind also that for maximum
potential you would need to ADVERTISE, and that costs money. Still a gamble because you might
spend hundreds of $ advertising only to get referrals that inactive for the most part or don't recover
your ad campaign, and this is where skill comes into play.

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As far as I know, she never did any paid type programs. It was all free to earn stuff. She always had
the largest referral count in everything she was in. It wasn't long and she retired from teaching and
only worked online in the free industry. Eventually, she retired from that too after some years. Maybe
one of her skills was being able to understand English well and relay information to her Chinese speaking
organizations but she also had large followings from various countries, not just China.

Circumstances, niche, money, time, there are too many parameters there. Just because she did it does
not mean that all Chinese teachers can do it even if they tried to copy what she did.

Some people succeed because they are in the right environment, are skilled, talented, have enough start up capital to cover expenses for the venues they are working on, and good networking skills. I am sure you are familiar with that Valerie, how networking is a major role in your success, both online and offline. If you've
done MLM, you know exactly what I mean and how well it applies :D

Some people are average Joe's who wake up in the morning go to work, earn and go back home,
watch TV, eat, sleep, who are looking for additional income online. If it was that obvious, then
everyone would be earning and making money - no poverty, no unemployment, general happiness.
There are too many considerations beyond one's control and too many things that need to be perfectly
aligned with one another to earn online. Not saying it is impossible, again, very limited.

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He was a natural in that people liked him. I don't know why or how but they did.
He had a huge following online and I don't have any idea how he accumulated the huge following. He
was not very online biz savy.

It didn't come from thin air Valerie, they probably had something going with them, a good asset,
good connections, a good social network, luck, skill, brains, all that combined.

There are key things that help !

- BELIEVING in what you are doing / promoting / working on, etc.
- Having a social network, meeting people, discussing online, etc.
(PERFECT example of this, Valerie, online forums ! There are thousands of online earning forums where you can exchange with others and learn tips and tricks and get to know online opportunities you did not know exists.
That's how I found out about neobux, and through neobux, clixsense, and through online chats and message boards I learned about other earning online........ That's your NETWORKING, and that helps you with earning online just as much as it helps you get jobs!
- Liking what you do
- Being skilled or acquiring skill in popular high demand niches
-Being lucky and having the right DNA (I guess some people are born with failure genes, maybe that explains why some fail regardless of what they do.......) Can't fight fate, but you can make the best of what you have, and for most people, it will be slaving 9 to 5 jobs and earning a few pennies online clicking ads.
-You can have social and networking skills, but outside PTC/GPT and earn free opportunities, if you don't have the capital to invest, forget it. Skill-Know-how / Talent / Money / Research are tied together.
Sure you can do some PTR and PTP and rely strictly on spamming forums and social networks or free web pages, but you are competing against so many other users spamming the same popular sites......so in the end
you are going to get mixed results. Why do the top HYIPs spend thousands on the most popular monitors instead of just spamming their links on forums and social network ? There is a reason for that.
No money no candy. Some people just have been in environments or circumstances in life where they could not acquire a lot of money, NOT because they are not willing or bad people.
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#7 by valerie » Wed Oct 09, 2013 16:31

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No it's will I tell ya, will.

There is all kinds of will. Will can be a sort of desperation and desperation can be good if that desperation
is channeled correctly.

Look at us. There is no difference in you and I. There is no difference in me and someone that lives in India.
We are all human's. What makes one person that grew up on dirt floors that have nothing, become a college
grad with a good job? It's all about the will.

You have to really want something bad enough and that is will. The will to find a way.

If your will is strong, the only thing you have going against you is fate.

You can fail. Nothing wrong with failing. If your will is strong and you continue, you will
succeed unless fate does not want you to succeed.

Every dog has his day. So just because a rotten person wins a prize, does not mean they
are not suffering or that they won't ever be suffering.

Hey, you have heard plenty of times I am sure about the person that wins the big lottery and
within the year, they are broke and often times in worse shape then they were before they won...
even some died!

Just saying.
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