We'll I prefer upgrading to premium since my luck is also doubled (including my earnings compared to when I'm not in premium).

1. Double chances in clixgrid and less waiting time (luck doubled)

2. Some ads are targeted to premium members (luck doubled)

3. Sometimes task might just barge in and give you around $10 in a day or more.. $1 checklist bonus is not bad though.

4. And when you upgrade you can help your sponsor earn too, helping others is a good thing too and it makes my day.

Instead of such huge posts describing every little cent and percentage, it would be better to simply read the disclaimer

Upgrading your account will not get you more offers or tasks and may not increase the number of ads available. The only added benefits are listed above and if you are not going to refer others or won't be able to complete the daily checklist on a regular basis, upgrading may not be for you. Please make sure you understand this before upgrading.

So in a nutshell, if you are not good at referring people or complete the checklist on a regular basis, a Premium upgrade is NOT for you. You should not upgrade just to click a few more ads daily because thats not going to help a lot.

chefkang wrote:
I have serious doubts IF the majority of the members here can make yearly tasks and offers that will pay yearly at least $243 and only in days when it's possible to get the checklist bonus. My personal opinion is that this is not doable for the average Joe

Please do not put words in my mouth I did not say the majority. I was giving a general example. One just does not go and buy a premium, there is a process first, and one should decide based on results they get. Obviously if a person joins and is in a good demographics and profile target they will get surveys and tasks, the extra effort comes from checking regularly for tasks and surveys and accepting bumps along the road, for those, when earning consistently would greatly benefit from a premium. Now I was talking under the worst case scenario a person could click their own ads + grid and maybe get a few tasks or do anything to recover BACK the $17. But the POINT is one should not upgrade unless necessary. If a person has no intention of promoting and earning from referrals then it's all up to the checklist bonus and nobody can predict in advance how much surveys / tasks you will get so it can be a gamble, however, a member's counrty can help determine things. If you are from US / Canada / UK there are daily casino tasks, all it requires is efforts to locate the times they appear which can be done, it would be highly improbable that a person from a tier 1 country would not get a single task or survey or enough to cover their $17 in one year. If you are in other countries, some will get fewer surveys some none, but there again if you are doing amazing numbers in tasks consistently, that might be an option to think about.

This is why there is no definitive answer, one cannot tell others "yes upgrade" or "no don't" this is a decision that has to be made by each individual based on many factors since not all members are in the same situation. Remember that this is a PTC/GPT hybrid now, and GPT offers can be extremely volatile and are targeted.

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You have the whole year to recover this which should be doable even under worst cases....

It's not doable necessarily.
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I was addressing the original poster of this topic since I know his country supports tasks and surveys.
He was asking an opinion as it relates to HIS account, not other members!

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Mind you, the casino tasks can actually pay you more money for the same work on at least 1 different contributor of CrowdFlower.

Are you referring to another bux site ? If it is the one I think you are referring to,
on that site your cashout minimum limits can reach up to $10 max, (starts at $2, increments $1 and ceiling is $10)
Here for a premium the minimum is $6. More so, over there they don't have a decent survey wall like ClixOffers, they use offer walls but much fewer surveys, and you have to wait 30 days. This topic is NOT about debating which site is better. The OP asked for an opinion.

Darkstar2 wrote: If I was in the situation where I did not earn anything from tasks or surveys or offers for a consistent amount of time, long term, I would probably decide not to renew, but I would base my decision on long term results and not just a bad period.

You are from a tier 1 country and this mean that your experience for a consistent amount of time can easily be the permanent experience for another member especially if he is not from a tier 1 country
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Again, I know all of this, I was giving an example on how I would decide, if you read my posts over the years you would see this is the first thing I mention about surveys, they are biased towards specific countries, US being best followed by tier 1 countries. Some international countries can have access to surveys but very limited. Tasks are more international friendly but so volatile.

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Statistically you may win nothing as well. And even if you win something you have to count how much time your spent for it to understand if your efforts brought you something good.

That is true, which is why I mentioned that the ClixGrid is just that tiny extra, FREE chance and should not be considered as a stable earner and people should not have expectations.

Darkstar2 wrote: Here is a TIP, do not put emphasis on the grid and do not EXPECT winnings, just play it as a FREE game, with no expectations.

A different tip would be this one: if you don't have realistic expectations that can satisfy you for something, do not try it
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Well sure some people would factor time and efforts into what they are earning online and say it is not worth all the clicking for little earnings, the same can apply to tasks and surveys and anything. Which is why there are JOBS and one should not make it a career and rely strictly on online income such as these ones. It is a supplement to income, some people will earn decent, some not, some not at all. Everything requires efforts, something it pays off sometimes not. I do have offline sources of income but I've made thousands of $ over the years from surveys alone, out of my spare free time, everyone has free will, this extra income helped me upgrade my computer several times, quality upgrades. To me, online earning will never replace stable income from a job, that's just me.

I agree with PTC, people should read the FAQs and research carefully when joining, nobody can guarantee income.

Going back to the case of the OP, based on his counrty alone, there is potential for an upgrade, however based on his experience, not qualifying, being screened out, frequency of tasks/surveys, that's where he has to decide. If the situation is bad enough over such a long period of time, one can decide to gamble and take the chance things get better (nobody can predict) or just skip the upgrade. This is highly similar to people throwing their money on upgrading on bux site, nobody can tell them in advance if their "BOTS" or site with controlled scripted avgs, will recover their upgrades or if it will be worth it for the efforts.......as some do win some lose...They can rely on what they read on the forums and common sense. OR common sense, ponzi schemes, few win, many lose........This is a real PTC with REAL potential and real advertisers and here you don't have expensive upgrades and scripted referrals to worry about and luckily you can earn without an upgrade, in fact it is not even necessary. If you don't have referrals or intentions of getting any, it will come down to tasks/offers/checklist bonus, and only a small % of the user base would fall under the exceptional stats required to make it worthwhile.......so it all comes down to what I was saying country targeted but also profile targeted........Nobody can know in advance but only the member him/herself based on their experience.

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Exactly because you never know when luck will strike, there is always a chance that it will never happen. You won 2 big prizes as you say and some smaller ones but you forgot to tell us how many times you tried.
Why don't you tell us what is the total number of your clicks in clixgrid and the total value of all the prizes you've got

lol well sure that is if one looks at the negative side of things. It's like the lottery, we know the odds are so slim that you probably would have better luck getting struck by lightning 3 times the same day ! But people still buy lottery tickets, spend their hard earned money, why ? Because you never know. The person who wins several hundreds of millions of $ in the lottery, they probably would have never found out had they said "nobody wins or it's very hard to win".

Clixgrid is a *FREE* trial, you can click on it or you can skip it. Sure you can click and never win anything,
But there IS possibility to win SOMETHING and it's free.

About my clicks:I remember doing the math and it came to about $0.001 per click lol.
I spent some time of not winning much so now I don't click all my chances. However, what's interesting is that
given I earn lots daily from surveys and some tasks, I HAVE to click at least 20 boxes in order to unlock
the checklist bonus, so it's a forced trial whether I like it or not

I remember the ratio going below 0.001 (somehow it feels odds have become lower since they added the $10,
but that might be coincidence).

Here are my current stats since you asked for them and share them freely as I don't "hide" them.

At the current time of writing: 18,646 clicks
total earned $14.95
2 biggest prizes won was $5 and $2.50. The $5 was won early on.
Calculator is going haywire, but as you can see < 0.001, so when one earns what I do daily, I kinda don't worry much about the grid, but I DO have to click on it.


As to the OP, if you decide not to renew, you will still earn, you can later upgrade at any time, there is no deadline or expiration fees or any of that. Again, you are given pros and cons, but since nobody can predict whether you will have enough tasks or offers in the year to come, it is hard to make a 100% accurate assessment.

Worst case if you only get the four ads a day,you'll make $14.60 a year with a premium account.

So, what we have here is a case of the low information marketer
trying to educate us that are smart, that knows it takes money to
make money and realizes the advantages of being a premium member.


Playing games is not making money, it's only an added feature and if
you happen to get a prize, then it's simple a bonus for your time.

As a premium member I rather have the options of being paid on
Friday and Monday than being a free member who can only cash
out at $8.00 versus us premium members that has the liberty of
cashing out at $6.00

Folks. Stop your whinning. That's what kids do.

Playing games is for kids. If you think playing games
is making money, then one has the mindset of a kid.

knock the dust off that monitor and discover the Internet.
Where ever you go you land on a someone's else website.

Get your self a website, a blog and start running those adhitz
and earn yourself more free money from visitor hits.

Throw up your clixsense banner and start looking like a
real internet marketer.

You got time to waste. You are already doing it now.

Invest your time in yourself and start thinking like a real
internet marketer, not a free loader.

Really, if your not willing to invest in yourself. Then why should
anyone invest with you.

I used my free money from clixsense and invested in myself.

Now I have over 500 members in my downline through 8 levels.

If anyone upset at this post. Then Good.

Think big. Smart small. Then start growing your knowledge
and take action to build residual income in a real home-based
business and start advertising in Clixsense building your business.

Darkstar2 wrote: Please do not put words in my mouth I did not say the majority. I was giving a general example

I put nothing in your mouth. A general example has to concern the average user and thus the majority. Common sense

Darkstar2 wrote: If a person has no intention of promoting and earning from referrals then it's all up to the checklist bonus and nobody can predict in advance how much surveys / tasks you will get so it can be a gamble, however, a member's counrty can help determine things. If you are from US / Canada / UK there are daily casino tasks, all it requires is efforts to locate the times they appear which can be done, it would be highly improbable that a person from a tier 1 country would not get a single task or survey or enough to cover their $17 in one year. If you are in other countries, some will get fewer surveys some none, but there again if you are doing amazing numbers in tasks consistently, that might be an option to think about.

If you forget it, there are way more countries in the world than just US / Canada / UK.

About the checklist bonus and no matter is you are from a tier 1 country or not, you have to earn at least $243 yearly from offers and tasks only to receive the $17 you will spend (and this means zero benefit) from the extra checklist bonus and this is a fact and it won’t take just a few surveys or tasks as you wrote and this is a fact as well.

About the surveys you can read in example the opinion of the OP who is from UK by the way and mind you it’s not the only one who says such things and obviously many others will not have even the chance to form an opinion because they don’t get any surveys anyway.

If you are doing amazing number in tasks, common sense says that you should go to do the tasks on the contributors that will pay you the higher amount of money and this is not clixsense and this is another fact

Darkstar2 wrote: I was addressing the original poster of this topic since I know his country supports tasks and surveys.
He was asking an opinion as it relates to HIS account, not other members!

He wasn’t asking opinions only about HIS account as you say. You can go back if you wish and read the last line in the first post.

Darkstar2 wrote: Are you referring to another bux site ? If it is the one I think you are referring to,
on that site your cashout minimum limits can reach up to $10 max, (starts at $2, increments $1 and ceiling is $10)
Here for a premium the minimum is $6. More so, over there they don't have a decent survey wall like ClixOffers, they use offer walls but much fewer surveys, and you have to wait 30 days. This topic is NOT about debating which site is better. The OP asked for an opinion.

You example was referring specifically to the casino tasks which alone are enough to cover the cost of the premium membership here as you said and as I said you have to earn at least $243 yearly only by doing them to cover that cost

The casino tasks pay more money in another site which is not a bux site and this is a fact. Even if that site has minimum $10 to withdraw, it will take you less time and less work to reach $243 in earnings from the casino tasks alone than what it will take you here. Even if the minimum to withdraw was $0.01 this cannot help you to earn faster.

A detailed comparison between sites is off topic indeed and you can open another topic if you wish and if it’s allowed, where we can talk with details.

Darkstar2 wrote: This is a real PTC with REAL potential and real advertisers

Are self-sponsored advertising of a $0.01 value per day per free member and $0.04 per day per premium member included in your personal definition of "a real PTC wit REAL potential and real advertisers"

Darkstar2 wrote: you can earn without an upgrade, in fact it is not even necessary.

Exactly the same is valid for other PTC as well and for some bux sites too and when your earnings come from offers and tasks you have to see which site will pay you more for the same work to maximize your earnings and this site is not clixsense most of the times when you look at the same offers and same tasks to make fair comparisons.

Darkstar2 wrote: At the current time of writing: 18,646 clicks
total earned $14.95
2 biggest prizes won was $5 and $2.50. The $5 was won early on.
Calculator is going haywire, but as you can see < 0.001, so when one earns what I do daily, I kinda don't worry much about the grid, but I DO have to click on it.

$14.95/18,646=$0.000802 per click and no further comments are needed

Probably you say that you DO have to click because you are doing it in hope that you will complete the checklist and otherwise you wouldn’t do it because you believe it doesn’t worth. If I’m right, this means that if clixsense wasn’t forcing you to use the grid for the checklist, you would never use it.

jwyblejr wrote: Worst case if you only get the four ads a day,you'll make $14.60 a year with a premium account.

As a free member you can get $3.65 IF you click the one guaranteed advertisement daily. So in the worst case and IF you click the 4 guaranteed ads every day as a premium you can make $14.60-3.65=$10.95 per year from your premium and this means loss.

proadco wrote: As a premium member I rather have the options of being paid on
Friday and Monday than being a free member who can only cash
out at $8.00 versus us premium members that has the liberty of
cashing out at $6.00

That’s not a serious reason to upgrade for the average user.

proadco wrote: Folks. Stop your whinning. That's what kids do.

And who are you to judge who looks like a kid or not and tell anyone what he should do or stop doing? The same way I could say that your entire post is childish and you should stop writing. Would you like that

For the rest, a real and professional marketer would never bother with PTC sites like clixsense in example, therefore you can think again who has the mindset of a kid you are talking about.

Out of 113 winning clicks (not counting the 5 extra chances), I won about $5.95 on the grid last year. I clicked regularly.

I don't have referrals. I do the premium upgrade every year, but am always disappointed when the cost of the upgrade increases. Even with just the grid and ads, I manage to make the cost of premium back each year, plus a bit of profit. Then again I have no life and spend most of my time clicking ads.

This year I hope to do better since I am trying to do more surveys. That said, I do agree that surveys are a pain for the little they pay and the few that I get to actually complete and get paid for compared to the many that I attempt. I suppose if I had the bleeding edge cell phone, computer, auto(s), boat, took long nad expensive vacation and such as that, I could complete more surveys. Then again, if I had money to do all the aforementioned, why the heck would I be spending time on ClixSense? I be more likely to be considering purchasing ClixSense than clicking ads.

With all that said, ClixSense tells you that this is not a "get rich" place. You will earn a little extra cash. If you are good a recruiting, you might make some decent money, but that is not guaranteed to happen or to last.

In addition, setting up a web page is not a guarantee of making money either. Google and other search engines are making it harder for the average person to compete for rankings. Large companies will always be on top for the best search terms. Making a page to advertise your ClixSense banner is not guaranteed either. To get traffic, you will have to advertise with other PTC sites since Google and other search engines will likely penalize your site and you will not be found for an search terms.

Disclaimer: The above is just my experiences and opinions. Your mileage may vary. Do not fold, spindle or mutilate. All the above is true, unless it isn't, then it's not.

Have a great day!
Frank

Hi sciathos,

I didn't make the decision to upgrade my account, because of the ClixGride price/chances (it comes as benefit).
In fact, you've got much more ads with Premium account:

I have spent up to 1 hour a day on my computer, evening when getting home after the job. And don't forget February is 28 days only:
$2.38x12=$28.56. I am on profit only by the ads I completed.

You've got 3 active referrals (that what you mention above). Do they do any offers, task or clicking ads? You've got double commission from your referrals compare to the free members.
Is anyone of them has a referral? He/She will go to your 2 to 8 levels and you will take $1 bonus every time if any of your 2-8 level referrals upgrade. Free members have got bonus only from their Level-1 referral's upgrade.

Signup commission is $1, compare to $0.50 free members.

The Math is Your Mate...

Good Luck

I think this topic has gone on way past it's initial disclosure.

If a member wants to upgrade, he/she can and if a member does not want to, he/she doesn't have to.
Everyone has their own reasons why he/she chooses to upgrade or not.

It certainly doesn't take a rocket scientist or mathematician to decide to upgrade or not.

Topic Closed.