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To Valerie... and anyone willing to read and opine

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#1 by Merchs » Thu Mar 12, 2015 08:57

Hello,

First of all, I apologize for opening a new thread using your name again, but I have no other way to reach you.

Yesterday I received two warnings; that happened after I had rated your reputation with a negative vote. The worker who answered me told me that my negative felt like a revenge; I tried to explain that it was not a revenge, but that I had felt attacked by your comments on the first thread I opened to address you, I'll quote it to make this easier:

valerie wrote:Please read the forum rules and if you don't understand them, submit a support ticket through
the HelpDesk.

Excessive emoticons are against the forum rules.

Although your topic and chatting away back and forth about basically nothing with your friend,
was ridiculous in my opinion, that is NOT why I locked the topic.

Moderators make decisions based on administrations rules and what we feel is inappropriate.

By the way, I am not most moderators.

I stress once more, read the forum rules.

Topic Locked.

I think that saying my friend and I were talking "about basically nothing" was not very accurate, since I had even talked about my aunt, who passed away not long ago (yeah, it's a personal issue, but it's not "nothing"); you also stated it was "ridiculous" in your opinion... and I felt somehow attacked and mistreated, as there were other people who seemed very pissed about that thread, as if we didn't have the right to talk about general topics, and as if they were compelled to enter and read it (whenever I find a thread that I'm not interested in, I just skip it and keep browsing, I think that's the logical thing to do); but it was THEM who were questioning it, NOT me, I was not discussing about my thread being interesting/legitimate or not, so when I read your answer I was like "What?" "Why?".

You also said you are not most moderators, and I was aware of that, because I also said that every moderator has his/her own methods. My point was that I never meant to break the rules, I'm familiarized with them because I've read them, but I'm used to see people quoting and using emoticons, and though it's true that I had my doubts in the beginning and thought maybe I shouldn't quote everytime I answered, I just didn't get to think I was surpassing the limits; and as for the emoticons, it never occurred to me that I'd might be using them excessively (in case I haven't done it properly, I apologize now for breaking both rules).

So I also told you that if you had warned me in time, I would have rectified and there wouldn't have been any need to close the thread; that was a suggestion, nothing more. I didn't even ask you to reopen that thread or anything, because I didn't really need it, and I had also started to feel umcorfotable with so many people having access to certain comments about my life; it's just that we didn't have any other way to communicate, so we used this one for a while, thinking there wouldn't be any problems.

I understand we all must abide by the rules, and I've never had any problems with that. The point is, and I've just recently experienced it, that each moderator has their right to understand and apply those rules according to his/her judgment, and if you considered closing the thread the best choice, that is totally fine and I understood it. I just want to make it clear that what I really disliked was your last answer, I didn't expect such an attitude from someone who is much more experienced than me and has more power here; and I thought the only way I could let you know (and everybody, because it's obvious that everyone here can see others' reputation), was giving you a negative. I understand that you could feel it as a revenge, but then maybe all negatives could be considered as a revenge; moreover, I got your negative and both warnings after I had rated you, so that could feel as a revenge too...

Anyway, I don't mean to write the Holy Book here. I had been thinking about all this, yesterday I was very worried that they could ban me from the Forums because of the warnings I got... another moderator helped me and told me I didn't need to worry though, so being afraid of getting banned is not the reason why I'm writing this to you, nor even the fact that I've just found out my negative is gone (though I won't say this one hasn't helped; I don't know if it's been you who has removed it... but thank you); what I would like is a fresh start between you and me. I'm making an effort to understand your reasons, and I want to say I'm very sorry for any inconveniences I might have caused you. I just hope you get to understand me too. I love this site, I'm very grateful to it for many things, and these Forums are one of them; I've met wonderful people here and I like getting along well with everybody. So please, let's forget about all this and start a new period. Of course I'll change my negative right now, though I don't have the power to make it disappear; I'll make it a neutral, wait for your answer and then I'm pretty sure I'll turn it into a positive. :)

Sorry for the extension, I couldn't manage to keep this shorter.
Best regards.
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#2 by valerie » Thu Mar 12, 2015 11:50

As others had ridiculed the thread, I made it clear that I also thought it was ridiculous BUT that is not why I locked the topic.

The purpose of the quote option is not for abuse. As a norm, a quote is used in a busy thread so that the member will know who or whom you are referring your post. In reality, there was no point in all the quotes since it was a conversation between only two members. Even so, that is NOT a stand alone as to why I locked the topic.

One, two, or perhaps even three emoticons is more than sufficient in a post. Any more than two or three, it is excessive. Tie that on with multiple quotes all including an excessive number of emoticons and it not only looks ridiculous, it is ridiculous and is against forum rules.

As I stated, I locked the topic due to excessive emoticons.

Please see forum rules in the News forum.

I was being kind by NOT giving you a warning. As a general rule, 5 warnings and you are then disallowed from posting at the forums.
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#3 by Merchs » Thu Mar 12, 2015 14:56

Ok then, I guess we both said what we wanted to say. I won't take this any further.
Everything's fine by me.

Regards.
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#4 by cookin2 » Mon Mar 16, 2015 06:21

Sarah - I just tried to drop in on the topic you started, wanted to catch up. Since this isn't the place to say what I think, if I want to keep my account that is (-wink-) no smilies ... wishing you well and greatly admiring your tactful resolution!
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#5 by Merchs » Mon Mar 16, 2015 06:35

Thanks a lot, cookin2. I really appreciate your supportive words. I've lived some harsh days lately around here, but I hope better times will come.
Best wishes to you too! ;)
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#6 by mukande » Mon Mar 16, 2015 19:17

seems like its a tough week for everyone lately on many levels....we will get through this with kindness and hope..
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#7 by Piddles » Mon Mar 16, 2015 19:27

Sarah_83...................Hope your days get better soon. I too just lost my aunt and she was really my mom in all.. If you ever want to contact someone out side of the forum, just send a message thru the help desk with the user name you want to contact along with your e-mail.. Well that is how I have had to do it.. ;)
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#8 by The_Helper » Mon Mar 16, 2015 19:35

I am truly sorry for your aunt Tasmail. It moved me to tears seeing that your aunt was like your mom.. :( I know how it feels like...
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#9 by Piddles » Mon Mar 16, 2015 19:58

TigerHeart wrote: I am truly sorry for your aunt Tasmail. It moved me to tears seeing that your aunt was like your mom.. :( I know how it feels like...

TigerHeart....................thanks so much!!!It is is still pretty fresh so still going thru it all right now..thanls for sharing you know how it feels, no more tears my :cs: friend.. ;)

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#10 by cookin2 » Tue Mar 17, 2015 04:19

TasMail, so sorry to hear of your loss. I wish that there was a way to make things easier for both you and Sarah.

Mukande had some wise words - by supporting each other and not causing anyone hurt, we all can get through whatever bad times we may be facing.
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#11 by Merchs » Tue Mar 17, 2015 04:51

mukande wrote: seems like its a tough week for everyone lately on many levels....we will get through this with kindness and hope..

Yeah, there are always good times and bad times, but we always have the choice to look at the brigth side and move on; and it feels so great when other people rallies around you! Thanks for your words, they're encouraging for everyone.

TasMail wrote:Sarah_83...................Hope your days get better soon. I too just lost my aunt and she was really my mom in all.. If you ever want to contact someone out side of the forum, just send a message thru the help desk with the user name you want to contact along with your e-mail.. Well that is how I have had to do it.. ;)

Hi TasMail... I'm very sorry to hear of your loss... and I'm extremely grateful for your supportive words. My aunt was more like a sister to me actually... but I guess you and I can understand what this feels like.
I had no idea that we could use the helpdesk for that purpose! Thanks and feel free to contact me if you ever wish to, by the way. ;)

I'm extremely grateful for your supportive gesture and words, and I hope your days get better soon, you really seem to deserve it. All my best wishes to you, take care and remain blessed!!

TigerHeart wrote:I am truly sorry for your aunt Tasmail. It moved me to tears seeing that your aunt was like your mom.. :( I know how it feels like...

Sorry to hear you've experienced that too...

cookin2 wrote:TasMail, so sorry to hear of your loss. I wish that there was a way to make things easier for both you and Sarah.

Mukande had some wise words - by supporting each other and not causing anyone hurt, we all can get through whatever bad times we may be facing.

I think you're already contributing to making things easier for us, just by showing that you care and support us. ;)
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#12 by The_Helper » Tue Mar 17, 2015 05:05

Thank you for showing sympathy... I think everyone's gone through this.. Valerie might wonder seeing this thread going on in her name... I think it's better to change the name.. Because they may say that the forum is not the place to share our worries... It's up to you Sarah... Cheer up.. ;)
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#13 by Merchs » Tue Mar 17, 2015 05:17

TigerHeart wrote: Thank you for showing sympathy... I think everyone's gone through this.. Valerie might wonder seeing this thread going on in her name... I think it's better to change the name.. Because they may say that the forum is not the place to share our worries... It's up to you Sarah... Cheer up.. ;)

You're very welcome!

Well, I opened this thread to address Valerie, but obviously I was talking about things that anyone here could have read, and all that people's support came as a consequence... but I guess it is not a bad idea, I'll edit the title and add a remark that it's addressed to anyone who wants to share their opinion. And if Valerie wants to proceed and lock it or whatever she considers necessary to say or do, that's totally fine by me.

Thanks and all my best wishes to you! ;)
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#14 by BeingHuman_9 » Tue Mar 17, 2015 08:23

TasMail wrote: Sarah_83...................Hope your days get better soon. I too just lost my aunt and she was really my mom in all.. If you ever want to contact someone out side of the forum, just send a message thru the help desk with the user name you want to contact along with your e-mail.. Well that is how I have had to do it.. ;)

Hi there TasMail,

I am sorry to hear about your aunt... I understand how it feels like for losing such people in your life in anyway that are so much close to you! :(

And also thanks a lot for telling us the way to how to contact someone outside the forum, i too didn't knew that too... Moreover, i and of course everyone appreciate your great contribution and support to this community! :)

Stay Blessed,

Kind Regards,

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#15 by Piddles » Fri Mar 27, 2015 00:48

cookin2 wrote: TasMail, so sorry to hear of your loss. I wish that there was a way to make things easier for both you and Sarah.

Mukande had some wise words - by supporting each other and not causing anyone hurt, we all can get through whatever bad times we may be facing.

cookin2.. Thanks for your kind words! Sorry I didn't reply sooner, I had family stuff I had to tend to and your right about Mukande!! ;)

You make it better by listening and I and us are surely grateful.. Thanks my :cs: friend!! ;)

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#16 by The_Helper » Fri Mar 27, 2015 00:54

Are you not sleeping... It's 4am there.. Are you on a night crawl :?: :D
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#17 by Piddles » Fri Mar 27, 2015 00:56

Sarah_83...............Thanks so much and your welcome. I hope you have been able to contact whom you needed or wanted to contact..
You to my friend.... stay blessed and hope your days are getting better. Just remember, some people that 'are' not going thru it may not be on point (so to speak) (well for a better word) . Some people that are not going thru "will" be supportive and not be harsh and give uplifting gestures and some people that "are or have been" thru will know exactly what you or a person may or may not be feeling!
You can contact me anytime you want to as well.. Hugging you my :cs: friend..!
;)
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#18 by Piddles » Fri Mar 27, 2015 00:59

ubaidh wrote:
TasMail wrote: Sarah_83...................Hope your days get better soon. I too just lost my aunt and she was really my mom in all.. If you ever want to contact someone out side of the forum, just send a message thru the help desk with the user name you want to contact along with your e-mail.. Well that is how I have had to do it.. ;)

Hi there TasMail,

I am sorry to hear about your aunt... I understand how it feels like for losing such people in your life in anyway that are so much close to you! :(

And also thanks a lot for telling us the way to how to contact someone outside the forum, i too didn't knew that too... Moreover, i and of course everyone appreciate your great contribution and support to this community! :)

Stay Blessed,

Kind Regards,

Ubaid.

ubaidh, thanks so much for your kind words, sorry for the late reply... its nice to know and here when some1 else really understands..
Your welcome for the info and stay blessed to my :cs: friend!!
;)
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#19 by Piddles » Fri Mar 27, 2015 01:02

mukande wrote: seems like its a tough week for everyone lately on many levels....we will get through this with kindness and hope..

You said it best my :cs: friend!! ;)
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#20 by Merchs » Fri Mar 27, 2015 05:33

TasMail wrote: Sarah_83...............Thanks so much and your welcome. I hope you have been able to contact whom you needed or wanted to contact..
You to my friend.... stay blessed and hope your days are getting better. Just remember, some people that 'are' not going thru it may not be on point (so to speak) (well for a better word) . Some people that are not going thru "will" be supportive and not be harsh and give uplifting gestures and some people that "are or have been" thru will know exactly what you or a person may or may not be feeling!
You can contact me anytime you want to as well.. Hugging you my :cs: friend..!
;)

You're welcome too!
Yes, I could contact who I wanted to.
I'll leave it to you, I guess I feel kind of shy to be the first one who requires to contact you, so if you ever feel like doing it, I'll be here! ;)

Thanks so much for your words; yeah, there are better days, and other days/moments when memories and feelings become stronger and you almost blow your top, like today precisely. I guess you understand what I'm talking about... and I guess that's what life is like, isn't it?

I hope you're doing as well as you can too!
Best regards TasMail, remain blessed!
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