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It use to be set to 10, I think it was.
They up'd it to 20 when they started or at least gave more opportunity to make the free bonus funds.
I think they also up'd the number of plays or what have you.

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proadco wrote: 10 would be fine rather than 20

I don't have a gamified kids mind in an adult body and shouldn't have to sacrifice for those that are.

I understand your point and agree maybe 10 clicks required would be better than 20, especially because when you've got a Standard membership, the ads' length makes it more tiresome (I rarely played it entirely when I was a Standard).

However, I think your final statement is quite generalizing, and somehow a little bit disrespectful towards the other members; I usually take my 60 ClixGrid chances not because I have a "gamified kid mind", but because it takes me like 12 min. or so to complete it. To me, it's not too much time consuming; I just see it as another earning opportunity here, and I guess probably I'm not the only one who sees it that way.

Cheers!

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proadco wrote: @ Sarah

Research gamification and why companies are applying it to their business practices.


I'll give you an example.

Back in 2007 - 2008 Internet marketing was easy to gain referrals building a real home based business.

Today, traffic exchanges has killed network marketing, MLM home based business building.

Today, it's gamification, keep you entertained, mindless silly badges, stickers, it's brain washing.

Unfortunately Rod, you are correct. I don't really like to go down that road because we're old.
I don't know about the 'brainwashing' end of things but I am mostly concerned about the where the end
of the road is. I doubt we'll see it and even if we do, we probably won't know our head from a hole in the
ground by that time. Then again, things move mighty fast these days. Personally, I find it rather sad and
disappointing. It's just not interesting any more. You know what I mean.

In regards to ClixSense and the grid, well I suppose its mostly about the advertisers. Ya can't have
people purchasing grid ads and no one viewing their ads. That would be senseless. So I suppose they
have the numbers down pact with the number of ad purchases for the grid and the number of members
that actually use it.

Buy 100 ad views
Only 1 person viewing the ad each day
= 100 days for the ad to run out

It would be nice if there was an alternative, however. You might think of something and present it in
the feature request. For example, a choice of viewing 20 grid ads or completing two more offers...some
such as that.

proadco wrote: @ Sarah

Research gamification and why companies are applying it to their business practices.


I'll give you an example.

Back in 2007 - 2008 Internet marketing was easy to gain referrals building a real home based business.

Today, traffic exchanges has killed network marketing, MLM home based business building.

Today, it's gamification, keep you entertained, mindless silly badges, stickers, it's brain washing.

I never questioned nowadays' reality and companies applying entertainment to their business practices.
It would be naive of me to deny the power of brain washing in today's world.

My point is that not everyone here is moved by a "gamified kids mind" when we play ClixGrid. At least, I'm not.
As valerie said, I guess it has to do with advertisers investing their money, I suppose ClixSense needs to maintain a balance and make sure everyone takes some profit.

I'll give you another example: how many millions of people have a Facebook account these days? You might think everyone has one... well, guess what, I don't, and I'm not planning on it.

Cheers!

Clixgrid views are already down on a couple of years ago. If you pushed the minimum down to ten, bad things would happen.

I just do whatever, and go on to another task.

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Well, it is an activity bonus, not a give me money for no reason bonus.

proadco wrote:Sarah, you validated my post when you stated you complete the 60 ads and then defended your
position that it only takes 12 minutes of your time. That's gamification. That's your choice if you want
max out your grid play.

Your post implicitly said that everyone who plays the game has a "kids gamified mind", and I explained the reasons why I max out my grid play; it's not precisely because I enjoy it, but because I see it just as another opportunity to get some earnings, so to me, that is not validating your entire post. In fact, I didn't mention it, but sometimes, when I win a prize, I still max out my chances as a way of showing gratitude to the site, as people is investing their money on those ads, ClixSense takes some profit, we can take some profit too... I don't know, call me stupid if you want, but as I said, I think things are set the way they are because of a reason: to maintain some balance between everyone's profit opportunities.
(For the record, I've won more than $8 so far, without maxing it out everyday along a year).

That said, if you read my first post again, you'll see the first thing I said was that I understood your point and that I agreed maybe 10 would be better than 20; I guess someone who has a kids gamified mind wouldn't care whether it was set to 20, 30 or 50. Furthermore, I also mentioned that I hardly ever max out the grid when I was a Standard, so again, I suppose that means something.

proadco wrote:I always, never speak on the behalf of everyone as you do, cause the majority as you see in ad copy
of the 97% I refuse to follow cause it's the 3% that are making the living wage income online that I follow.

It's funny how you turned my words all upside down; when did I speak on the behave of everyone? On the contrary, it seemed it was YOU who were speaking for everyone with this sentence: I don't have a gamified kids mind in an adult body and shouldn't have to sacrifice for those that are. I think it's easy to infer that you're stating all the people who chooses to play the game have a kids mind in an adult body. That's the part I didn't agree with; and I only said I guessed I was not the only one, and finally made it clear I was speaking on MY behave. So please, don't try to manipulate my words.

proadco wrote:As for Facebook. I don't have a Facebook, I don't do Facebook. Facebook is a data mining collection
center made easy for the alphabet gang to track, data mine, profile where those members tells their
entire life story, family names, kids ages and everything about themselves except for their mothers
maiden name and in due time, they will end up telling that too.

Mark Zuckerberg net worth of $34.8 billion dollars by simply making up a pyra platform capped off with a domain name called Facebook and the mass population made it so popular, he became a multi billionaire and your jumping on my post about clix grid count.

Good for you, see, you don't use FB either, so you've validated my post: not everyone acts the same or motivated by the same stimulus, that's the only reason why I chose the FB example.
And again, you seem to have missed my whole point: I didn't jump on your post about clix grid count, I jumped on the part of your post where you generalized about people's mind.

proadco wrote:You see a problem here?

The only problem I see is the one you have with this ClixGrid mandatory thing; it really seems to be a big deal to you.
As valerie suggested, you might present your ideas in the feature request.

In the meanwhile, why don't you use that (3-4 min.?) chore to think about your stuff while you click the squares?
I mean, I rarely pay attention to the ads... it's like washing the dishes, you can do it automatically while your mind is maundering (and even if you have a dishwasher, you still need to spend some time putting all the stuff inside; now, you can hire someone to get all your housework done... ok, then I guess you still need to brush your own teeth, spread the toothpaste over your toothbrush and so on...).

Just remember that even if they set it from 20 to 10, it would still be a chore, a mandatory task in order to complete the daily checklist.

Sometimes the easiest thing to do is complaining, but if you focus too much on what you dislike, you take the risk of missing the bright side of things; in this case, the bright side is that you might win some extra cents or even dollars with hardly any effort.

Good luck.

@Rod

Personally, I think the ClixGrid is or at least was, a unique strategy. I wouldn't go so far
as to call it ingenious but simply a very good idea that someone came up with.

I use Facebook. Mostly, its about the Facebook user in regards to how much information
they want to share. There is also the option to set your Facebook account to private so
that only those you deem to see your postings, can.

Recently, I was discussing Facebook with someone and telling them how I wished we had
the internet when I was in grade school. All the friends I grew up with.....well, very few
do I have any idea where they are now. IF we had the net and Facebook when I was a
kid, I'd probably still be in touch with many of my old childhood friends. There's good and
bad in most things but I think overall, Facebook has given an easy way for friends/families
to connect easily, stay connected easily, post their selfies, baby pics, etc. The bad part is,
the people themselves that use Facebook, many seem to relay way too much information.
Still, that is the 'peoples choice' to relay info or not, to post pics of themselves and their
families or not.

'Old' as meaning both ways. Not just age. I was trying to recall exactly what year it was
I started using the internet and I can't remember. I guess it was the late 80's. It was at
a time when the only way you accessed the internet was through dial up and it was slow
as syrup. Once online, it was fascinating but there was not much to see. In the early to
mid 90's I began seeing money making opportunities which consisted of many HYIP shams.
There was also many of the mail shams. I do recall one mail sham I joined in the 90's
called 'Show Me The Money' and a dot com at that. You'd mail your 5 upline each a $20
dollar bill. I did! I sent them each 20 bucks. Then there were programs that were
very primitive such as 'Bravenet' that gave you free website counters. HAHA! He made
a fortune! The big deal came along with 'GoingPlatinum' early in 1999. He was going to
'change the internet'. In the year 2000, that started the masses, I think. More people
online, more websites, ideas from all around, and failing could hurt if you didn't play your
hand right but at least it was interesting and fun.

I think of sites like Facebook and Twitter, as very simplistic ideas that probably unknowingly,
targeted lazy. Lazy like AOL. If you can give people a very easy way to do something,
they are certainly more likely to do it than a complicated way to do something. An example
is an elderly aunt of mine.....she doesn't know squat about computers or online stuff, but
she has a Facebook account. She can type enough to stay in contact with family, see
images of her grandchildren, etc.

Look at 'AlertPay' started by the Patel's. I don't know if you remember them but the
younger Patel was the original software creator of my coffee program. Horrible software
it was which did aide hugely in losses but what I am saying is, he had some goofy old
programs that were not about much. I think it was more so him, not his brother, that
came up with AlertPay. I'm positive of it. He had my web designer design it and he
contacted me to join it.....I was the first to join so I could test it......and so I could help
him promote it....which I did not do, by the way. I was still peeved about the crappy
software he sold me.

Bottomline, lots of ideas of which most fell to the wayside but it was fun, interesting,
and all led to the growth of the internet. Even MLM lawyers arose out of no where and
some laws were introduced.

So in regards to your original topic, you do the 20 if you want the daily bonus and if
you think it's too many, present an alternative in the Feature request forum. Some
ideas:

-Third account option. Instead of only free and premium, add a Platinum membership.
Platinum members may earn the daily checklist bonus with a minimum of viewing only
5 ads. Other incentives such as higher ref earnings, especially on other platinum members.

-Alternative daily completion. Do an extra offer or task and only need to click 10 ads
in the grid.

In regards to 'gamification' and brainwashing, well I don't know totally what the heck
you are talking about exactly. I have a couple of grandkids that most every time I see
them, I have to bend way down to see their face. Not because they are young and
short but because their face is glued to either mom's cell phone or their DS gamer.
Mom's use to give their kids coloring books or books. You'd go to the doctors office
or out most any where and you'd see a child with their doll, football, coloring book,
book, etc. Now, you see them with gamers. I think with the problem with society is
with every generation, new things come into play but also old things are cast away.

i see it as my gift to ClixSense,,,,, i win just few times a year but playing it every day and i do not care if i win or not...... just my gift to hones site , a bit help from me ....................... why it is hard for some to give few min ... i invested nothing here , but made over 1000.00 so who care for few min

my clix grid is set to 30 !!!!!!! but i won .10 today !! woo hoo!!

I play the grid everyday just to try to win the $10 dollars. So I use all my chances and why wouldn't you, it's fun.

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