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UK members - Who do you want to win?

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Who will you be voting for?

Poll ended Sun Aug 09, 2015 01:22  »  Voted by 17 members  »  Single-choice
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#1 by kebo25 » Sat May 02, 2015 08:26

Ok I did a booboo and accidently placed this in the wrong section at first silly me >.> But . . . .

Hi, if you're in the UK you ill no doubt know that the election is taking place thursday, and it got me wondering. Who would you want to win and why? I personly will be voting Lib dem as I want clegg to win, thefact they want to help the NHS most is what draws me towards them. I know they've made false promises in the past, but they need a chance without cameron there really. but may also consider Labour. Though a Lib dem / Labour coalition would be good. What about you?
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#2 by BouldRake » Sat May 02, 2015 09:04

Yorkshire First. Centralisation is bad. People should rule themselves. I'm not saying you have to be born in Yorkshire to have a say what happens in Yorkshire, but you should at least live there. Living with them is kinda the minimum requirement of having a say in anyone else's life.

Then when Yorkshire First gets in, we can break that down, until the Skyrack is restored to it's Jorvik glory local decisions are taken locally.

If the lib-dems and greens could get enough between them to control more than labour and the tories, that'd be a good result. Even if they don't form a government, just having enough of the vote between them to keep the other two relatively sane would make the world a safer place.

But as long as UKIP are kept out, that's the main thing.
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#3 by kebo25 » Sat May 02, 2015 10:12

Hmm, I see where you're coming from, and I do partially agree. However, the problem with giving the people the decisions to make, it would create friction through on another with disagreements etc, as lets be honest, a lot of people don't know what they want these days.

And centralisation is needed really, Devolution of power (excessively) to regions dilutes said power, and draws up lines of division between people. There is already a considerable rise of nationalist feeling in England in reaction to the Scottish Parliament, and Welsh Assembly. The country is still carefully reconciling in the wake of the Scottish referendum, so it doesn’t really seem plausable at this moment to create further divisions by demanding regional devolution in England.
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#4 by BouldRake » Sat May 02, 2015 10:29

I live by the moors. I care about ecology, conservation, hill walking, cardigans and flat caps. My ambition in life is to own a field and live in it (really - I'll even be running an ad here at Clixsense for it shortly). What do I have in common with a banker in London who cares about cars, gadgets, television programs and ISAs, who desires a penthouse suite at the Savoy?

How is it even possible to please both people with the same government? You can't.

And of course it dilutes power. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. The more of it you give to somebody, the more they'll stab you in the back with it. We don't want any individual with power, we want lots of people with equality.

The Scottish problem is that "Scotland" isn't a sensible division (and to be honest, neither is Yorkshire). It's way too big - it's not obvious someone in Glasgow has anything in common with someone in the remote highlands.

In the case of Yorkshire, the Vikings got it mostly right - the wapentakes still make up sensible divisions. In the rest of the UK, parliamentary constituencies need some work, but offer a reasonable start.

In fact, the Lib-Dems mostly offer this with their support for more devolution to local councils - it's just watered down a bit compared to what I would like.
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#5 by proadco » Tue May 05, 2015 06:07

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#6 by dave2319 » Wed May 06, 2015 13:47

Quite an interesting video, although that one seems to mostly criticise Cameron. I haven't seen many of Mark McGowan's videos but he's against all the main parties and so am I, which is part of why I won't be voting.

The other reason is: I think the idea that we've got real choice and alternatives is all smoke and mirrors. Yes there are some differences on paper, but at the end of the day there's one government agenda, which consists of furthering their interests. No matter who wins you can guarantee they'll be pushing the case for invading Iran and Syria, irrespective of what they might say now. All governments go to war because it's in their financial interests to do so.

And that's just one example.
Another key reason why there's only one agenda and it doesn't really matter who's in government is that politicians are puppets serving their masters. If you think that's a load of rubbish, do some research and see what you find.
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#7 by BouldRake » Wed May 06, 2015 17:51

Quote:To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.
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#8 by hansgruber » Thu May 07, 2015 17:17

lol seems like a bloodbath for the libdems so far
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#9 by BouldRake » Thu May 07, 2015 19:38

On the plus side, Channel 4 has been fun.
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#10 by BouldRake » Fri May 08, 2015 07:37

Bloody hell, went to bed on a Tory minority, woke up to a Tory landslide.

Welcome to hell gentlemen, welcome to hell.
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#11 by kebo25 » Sat May 09, 2015 01:12

Guess we can say bye bye to the NHS now.
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