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Oh Gawd, Rod. You sound like that pyrabang owner.

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I didn't push him to do anything at all.

Someone contacted me, told me about it, relayed the structure, and I thought it was great.
So new and different with a topic that affects all. I brought in hundreds of people and most
everyone liked it.

I don't make any bones about it, I really liked it. I found it interesting and I learned some
things too.

However, I certainly did not create it nor did I make any push for him to open it up to any
specific market.

I guess he did get all bent out of shape with members posting adverts about things other
than political. BUT, he could have set some limits to that or changed it a bit.

After all was said and done, I offered to buy the script from him for $1,000.00. All he said
was 'I thought I'd get more than that!'. He did not even squabble with me. I would have
went up to $2,000.00 and I would have ask him to stay on hire for me to work on the script.

He never came back with anything so that was that.

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I had went thru Eric.

I think Chris simply did not want to sell.

Truly, I wasn't 'that' interested in it but as I told Eric, I would take it if he wanted to sell it.
I would have worked it and as stated, if Chris wanted to stay on to do additional programming, would have been fine.

I know the problems Chris was having, for lack of a better statement. I would have
thought the funds for the script would have helped him out and in essence he would
have had a job.

It wasn't that big of a deal to me one way or the other.

When a person does a lot of work and spends a lot of time doing the work, they tend
to believe what they have is worth a lot more.

If you recall, there was some similar programs out there.....not political but set up
was similar in regards to the adverts. For the life of me, I can't remember the names
of any of them. One in particular I had joined. They were more like affiliate programs
in which you place some code on your site but there was the one that was very similar
to his in ads.

Anyway, overall, I didn't see the script worth a whole lot but I would have bought it
at the time if he had come back to me about it.

Isn't that the group singer Jimmy Buffet belongs to? Or am I thinking of a different secret society?

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time to buy baked bean...thanks God we earn good here so we can have a good reserve of beans

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valerie wrote: Oh Gawd, Rod. You sound like that pyrabang owner.

Valerie, I'm wondering to what extent you believe the stuff that Rod posted, or whether you think it's rubbish!

I have slightly mixed feelings about this topic, because on the one hand I know the information's true and think it's very useful for people to read up on these things, particularly if they don't know them already, but on the other hand I think such a negative, almost apocalyptic angle can easily promote fear, which doesn't help our cause. Either that or people laugh it off like it's nonsense.
I'd prefer to see a more positive slant to this subject, and actually, this article you linked to is very interesting, and one which concludes that things could go either way. As the article says:

Quote:On the one hand, we are very close to our complete enslavement, while on the other hand, we could easily crumble to the ground their pyramid of power, by simply uniting against their deception in a peaceful revolution of minds, hearts and souls.

I think being positive will help with the latter, and as Socrates said: "The secret of change is to focus all of your energy not on fighting the old but on building the new."

Every generation has it's autumn of nations. The problem is, we keep screwing up the rebuild.

On the plus side, it's looking like we're close to another.

@dave2319, I didn't click on any of Rod's links nor view any of it that he placed here.

However, I am very familiar with the jest of it all and more.

It's a very difficult subject and I don't like to get into it, not on a forum especially.
The reason being mostly is because I am a Christian that believes in the Holy Bible and the Book of Revelation.
Therefore, since I believe what the Bible states, I have a bit of a different interpretation I suppose.

There are have always been controlling factors in the world. People that have the money and the power.
Some of these people are or have been, good, good for society, good for the people. Others, have been
bad and some horrific.

What can we do?

Communism? Well, to an extent it works but unfortunately, it's only an extent and overall bad.
Even so, there are still those in power doing the controlling.

Like Janis Joplin song, 'Freedom's just another word, for nothing left to lose'.

Even in a 'free society' we're not free.

Overall, no matter where or what, people need to remember and know they are the people
and it is the people that can make a change. People should band together against the powers
that be when those powers are evil.

In regards to preparation, everyone should be prepared for any disastrous event. If people want
to live their life in a bunker, that is their choice. I am not that fanatic. I live in a rural area and
I always have enough food to last an entire year or probably longer if need be. I also have two
of the 25 year food buckets. Mainly I have the type of food supply that I have simply because I
like to have plenty of everything on hand. If the electric goes out due to weather, I am fine
because I have a generator, plenty of food, out door grills, kerosene heaters.....soon I will have
a wood stove, etc. I live in a tornado and earthquake prone area so being prepared is a good
idea.

PS. You'd have to know Chris to know what I meant in my reply to Rod

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Thanks for the info, Valerie.
These days I don't tend to post about religion in forums, for reasons of a guaranteed-to-offend nature!

As for the elite, I'd recommend people looking into them and doing their own research. Particularly if you think your government generally looks after your interests and is on your side, because that's not the case. They act in line with their own interests and those of the elite behind the scenes.
I'm sure many people have noticed that things don't improve for the majority of us, but that's not because politicians do a bad job, in fact on the contrary. It's entirely deliberate, because goverments are corporations and they do whatever it takes to profit from us. In fact "making a profit from us" is a massive understatement! What they're actually doing isn't fit to mention in a family forum!

Quote: Particularly if you think your government generally looks after your interests and is on your side, because that's not the case

I don't think anyone has thought that since about 1740, have they?

1740 was a good year.

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1740 is the bit where the Whigs were in charge, but had stopped with the protectionism, had extended British citizenship to all British citizens regardless of race, and before the war of the Austrian succession started (or at least, didn't start until the end of the year).

And, that's as progressive as politics ever got, and it lasted a year or two before we got back to demonising foreigners, protectionism and war mongering.