only western religions condemn gay marriage...food for thought

davidbugs wrote: Some extreme Christian group Santa Claus isn't real. They should get rid of Santa Claus go back old fashion way of Christmas.

Playing a lottery is against their religion. They use to be against the lottery in 1970. Now money change everything.

Gay marriage Christian argue if we allow it. Human have the right their pets since they love each other. People want to marriage more than one person. Human want to marriage their robot girlfriend.

Wait... You're saying Santa Claus is real... No comment

Krish900 wrote: only western religions condemn gay marriage...food for thought

Don't know what you mean by western religions. Religions are worlwide and found about everywhere ?

hey sarah,i dont want to be rude or anything coz at the end of the day ,you're entitled to your opinion too but to scrutinize what i have written aint going down too well with me.
we are here to give our views not to make comments on other ppls posts unless of course your gay yourself and trying to justify the fact that its 'cool' n 'ok' to be gay.

no point getting uptight dear its my opinion in general,if it offends you or hurts you then not my problem ok.

Well when you say it dont make sense then read again,
why do so many people hide their sexuality? what does coming outta da closet mean?

it means finally revealing who they really are.
yes being gay does offend people in different ways,i aint going into detail here coz gal u got brains either think logically or
go back and read this topic from the beginning,you will see more people are against this than for it,so you got your answer here,im just the tip of the ice-berg.

If you are a christian,then you must know what it says in the Bible.................then again if you dont believe in what humans write, or what it says in any scripture,just think logically,ethically and morally for a sec,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you know its wrong,its a sin and more people will agree with me here than with you.

have a gr8 day

Sarah_Hill wrote:
Jeez, some people must have quite a high self-concept to put themselves up as God's spokenperson; and I don't care if you base your views on any holy sripture, these were written by human beings too, as much as they witnessed anything and/or were inspired.

Truth is rarely pure and never simple (Oscar Wilde, one of the geniuses whose lives have been destroyed by the hypocritical, intolerant and fanatical sector of society).

Please don't talk like that. If you're not sure about something, research it & then talk. At least show some respect towards other religions. They weren't just ordinary "spokespersons", they were 'Prophets'. You can't compare ordinary human beings to prophets. Of course, they were humans beings in flesh, but God sent them to earth to show people how to live life in a rightful manner & to save people from the clutches of devil.

Had you studied about the life of prophets, you wouldn't have said this. People don't have time to study about religions, they're busy in making a living. This is the reason, people fall into the trap of devil & for them, God is just a joke.

Quote:just think logically,ethically and morally for a sec,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you know its wrong

It's morally and ethically wrong for two people to love each other?

That certainly explains the war torn Earth we're occupying.

pindokhan123, "scrutinize"? I simply have the habit to read all the posts whenever I'm interested in a particular thread.

Yeah right, we're here to do as you say... sorry, but this is a public forum and this is what happens when people give their opinion, you know, it's called an exchange of views, and of course we're all aloud to comment on other people's posts. Besides, I had already stated my opinion before you had stated yours, and I'm not the only one who has commented on your posts later.

I'm not gay and happen not to even have any gay friends so far as you have, but if I were, I wouldn't need to justify it in any way, far less in a place such as a forum (it'd be pretty sad to feel such a need indeed)... I thought that was an obvious thing, but apparently all the members here who share my views must be gays.

Your opinion doesn't offend me at all dear, I just find it an unfortunate cliché. However, it seems you really got offended by my commenting on your points, so sorry about that... but I don't think I've made anything wrong.

I don't need to read anything again, I stand by what I said. Do you really think I'm not aware you're not the only one who thinks like that?

I'm not a Christian, thought I was raised to be a Catholic. I do sympathize with some of their beliefs, I do like the figure of Jesus, I do have read several passages of the Bible, and I still suscribe what I said about this. We could start a debate about scriptures, religions, etc., but I don't want to go off topic.

If thinking logically, ethically and morally means thinking like you do, I'll gladly remain mad.
Good for you if you've got a majority on your side, congrats!

Thank you, I will, you2 have a great day!

And finally you've decided to openly show your true face to me, TigerHeart. Thank you.

I never said anything disrespectful towards any religion. I've talked about scriptures, written by humans. They may be considered prophets or gods if you like, but they're still humans. In fact, I wasn't even referring to the prophets when I spoke about God's spokenpeople, I was directly addressing to pindokhan123's attitude. I respect those prophets' belief that they were directly transmitting God's words and commands (whether I believe it or not is a different matter). You know, that's one of the things I most like about Jesus, for example; it seems he never looked down on anyone, despite he called himself the son of God; he even said that we're all gods. And some people have taken that as the perfect excuse to inflate their egos to insane extents.

As I said to pindokhan123, we could start a debate here to discuss scriptures, religions, prophets, etc., but I won't go off topic more than I've already have.

I can see you know a lot about me, my religious baggage and how much time I've got or how I spend it. You seem to even take for granted that I'm trapped by the devil and God is a joke to me. And you've come to all these conclusions based on a comment I made... and only because I don't share your view on it.
I'm absolutely impressed.

Well, I'm sorry but I'll talk as I like, as long as I'm respectful, which I usually am.
And by the way, I'd rather remain into the trap of the devil than into the trap of arrogance which makes people think they're in possession of the absolute truth.

My apologies to everyone for the "little" off topic.

You're very funny. I don't wanna argue with you anymore. pindokhan123 has said it all. You're all wonderful. Happy? May God bless you.

no problem sarah,nothing personal dear,yes perhaps you're right in away,this forum is to share our opinions.
i dont want this debate or call it what you will to come between us,as we have never met b4 nor shared a post,i hope we can become friends despite our objective views and quite frankly its been enjoyable too in a funny kinda way.


if i did say anything too objective that any member has found offensive i opologise,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but let me make it clear i still condone homosexuality.



one last thing after a little bit of research,,mind you, every religion condemns this,this is the Chrisitian Bibles view.


Question: "What does the Bible say about homosexuality? Is homosexuality a sin?"

Answer: The Bible consistently tells us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; 20:13; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9). Romans 1:26-27 teaches specifically that homosexuality is a result of denying and disobeying God. When people continue in sin and unbelief, God “gives them over” to even more wicked and depraved sin in order to show them the futility and hopelessness of life apart from God. 1 Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexual “offenders” will not inherit the kingdom of God.

God does not create a person with homosexual desires. The Bible tells us that people become homosexuals because of sin (Romans 1:24-27) and ultimately because of their own choice. A person may be born with a greater susceptibility to homosexuality, just as some people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins. That does not excuse the person’s choosing to sin by giving in to sinful desires. If a person is born with a greater susceptibility to anger/rage, does that make it right for him to give into those desires? Of course not! The same is true with homosexuality.

However, the Bible does not describe homosexuality as a “greater” sin than any other. All sin is offensive to God. Homosexuality is just one of the many things listed in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 that will keep a person from the kingdom of God. According to the Bible, God’s forgiveness is just as available to a homosexual as it is to an adulterer, idol worshipper, murderer, thief, etc. God also promises the strength for victory over sin, including homosexuality, to all those who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation (1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Corinthians 5:17; Philippians 4:13).



What does the Bible say about homosexuality? Is homosexuality a sin?

thankyou tiger buddy for your sweet msg,,im not here to hate or disgrace anyone ,but in a debate or expressing an opinion does sometimes leap the bounderies....fun anyway


have a good day 2moro

reply to bouldrakes post. sorry i forgot to quote it.

no my friend for 2 of a kind ,same sex,,its wrong for a physical relationship,you know what i mean,im not talking abt brotherly,father son or any other relationship that comes through blood ,but for 2 people of the same sex other than friendship is wrong.

now im not being insinuative here its just my view.like i said i do have gay friends but just cant accept the fact that its a normal thing,,,something seriously wrong here and thats debatable.

Quote:one last thing after a little bit of research,,mind you, every religion condemns this,this is the Chrisitian Bibles view.

No, just the Abrahamic religions. My religion does not condemn - in fact, the Gods themselves practice. The majority of religions say nothing at all on the subject. And most religions have more than one God with contradictory beliefs, making "my religion says..." invalid, one has to draw from the particular God in question.

You're looking at this from a poorly researched, monotheistic, homophobic view point.

Quote:,something seriously wrong here

Yes - it's called bigotry.

I may have to close this topic because it appears people are getting angry in it.

Bottomline, there are varying religions all around the world and in regards to
homosexuals, religious people may see it as a sin.

In addition, whether it be religion or one's individualism, may believe that
homosexuals do not fall into their moral standards.

To be clear, there is all kinds of love. There is love for brother, sister, mother,
father, friend, child, God, husband, wife, and so on.

I don't think you can put a real percentage on how many people are homosexuals
or how many members in ClixSense is homosexuals.

That's what is wrong with the world.....not homosexuals.....but people infringing
their beliefs on people that don't want to be infringed upon. This is one major
reason why there is war. It's also obvious in this topic that people get all mad
and upset if someone does not believe the same way they do.

pindokhan123 wrote: thankyou tiger buddy for your sweet msg,,im not here to hate or disgrace anyone ,but in a debate or expressing an opinion does sometimes leap the bounderies....fun anyway

have a good day 2moro

You're welcome. Yeah, me too. What else could I do? I really felt like crying when I read her comments & no one was there for your support. I had to step in. There was no other choice. I'm not against anyone personally, but most NOT all westerners (no offense) don't have the proper knowledge of the scriptures, for some scriptures have been manipulated by modern so called scholars. I didn't mean to hurt anyone, but Sarah misunderstood. I didn't want to argue further & make her upset.

You too have a great day. May God bless u & protect you.
Peace to everyone.

Quote:but people infringing
their beliefs on people that don't want to be infringed upon.

That basically says it all....and honestly I couldn't care less what someones believes or not.

If two people want to be together,just let them.

i hope we all have sweet dreams,loadsa tasks and 0.01 ads for 2moro


i bless this forum and hope it increases in number and plenty of more subjects to get my teef in2

TigerHeart wrote: I really felt like crying when I read her comments & no one was there for your support.

And how do you think gay people feel when they read the kind of insults thrown at them in this thread?

TigerHeart wrote: You're very funny. I don't wanna argue with you anymore. pindokhan123 has said it all. You're all wonderful. Happy? May God bless you.

Thanks, but as I already told you once, not as funny as you.
That's great, because I wasn't arguing, I was just replying to your baseless judgments upon me.
I can see you've learned your lessons well. May God bless you too.

pindokhan123 wrote:no problem sarah,nothing personal dear,yes perhaps you're right in away,this forum is to share our opinions. i dont want this debate or call it what you will to come between us,as we have never met b4 nor shared a post,i hope we can become friends despite our objective views and quite frankly its been enjoyable too in a funny kinda way.

We agree then; I never meant to make it personal, it just happened that your comments drew my attention, but yours were not the only ones that I commented on anyway.

pindokhan123 wrote:but let me make it clear i still condone homosexuality.

I guess that must be a typo and you wanted to write condemn, right?

TigerHeart wrote:You're welcome. Yeah, me too. What else could I do? I really felt like crying when I read her comments & no one was there for your support. I had to step in. There was no other choice. I'm not against anyone personally, but most NOT all westerners (no offense) don't have the proper knowledge of the scriptures, for some scriptures have been manipulated by modern so called scholars. I didn't mean to hurt anyone, but Sarah misunderstood. I didn't want to argue further & make her upset.

Make me upset? Oh my, but it seems it's me who almost made you cry...
I'm sorry but you did make personal assumptions about me, and I quote: Had you studied about the life of prophets, you wouldn't have said this. (And then you spoke about people in general, but right after you had directly addressed me).

Scriptures have been manipulated ever since they were written, by the way.
Just think about who decides which fragments are "true" and which are "apocryphal".

For the last time, I'm sorry that my comments had such a harmful effect on the both of you. It was never my intention, I was just debating. I don't have an interest in convincing anyone of anything, that's precisely what I've been defending: freedom to think and act as you please, again, as long as you cause no harm.

I just thought this was an open thread to express, share and respectfully diverge if needed. And being this such a delicate matter to so many people who still have to struggle to have the right to live a decent life regardless something as personal as their sexual condition, althought we might expect some divergent opinions, I admit I find some of them to be very sad. Maybe the fact that a kid killed himself not so long ago here in Spain has contributed to my points. Of course, he might have had other problems aside from being bullied for his sexual condition, but I believe that shouldn't have been among his troubles.

It's funny when people run out of arguments and say others have gone mad or upset about the topic.
Anyway, I'm done with this.

yes sarah i meant to write condemn but coz my brain cells start dwindling away at certain hrs i wrote that instead,,condone ,to accept,,yikes no