@ zegon

Just sent you an email

ProAdCo wrote: @ zegon

Just sent you an email

Oki Doki , hope you put on a stamp...

zegon wrote:

ProAdCo wrote: @ zegon

Just sent you an email

Oki Doki , hope you put on a stamp...

Are you kidding? I sent C.O.D

@ProAdCo

Did you joined 4c home based business?

hamsou73 wrote: @ProAdCo

Did you joined 4c home based business?

I've not joined 4c, I watched a YT video with the guy walking around the house
showing everything he purchased from the profits of 4c. Other than that, don't
know much about it, other than it's a one time payment to be a member, I think.

There is only program I've been focused on since April of 2006 ( 10 years this month ),
I'm still waiting for Valerie to join me

I take it your in 4C hamsou73?

ProAdCo wrote:

hamsou73 wrote: @ProAdCo

Did you joined 4c home based business?

I've not joined 4c, I watched a YT video with the guy walking around the house
showing everything he purchased from the profits of 4c. Other than that, don't
know much about it, other than it's a one time payment to be a member, I think.

There is only program I've been focused on since April of 2006 ( 10 years this month ),
I'm still waiting for Valerie to join me

I take it your in 4C hamsou73?

And....I've been a member of that program for about 15 years and I am about
ready to throw in the towel.

Still in investigating process to make a decision if its worthy or not.

Till now I see its worthy for big recruiters only

valerie wrote:

ProAdCo wrote:

hamsou73 wrote: @ProAdCo

Did you joined 4c home based business?

I've not joined 4c, I watched a YT video with the guy walking around the house
showing everything he purchased from the profits of 4c. Other than that, don't
know much about it, other than it's a one time payment to be a member, I think.

There is only program I've been focused on since April of 2006 ( 10 years this month ),
I'm still waiting for Valerie to join me

I take it your in 4C hamsou73?

And....I've been a member of that program for about 15 years and I am about
ready to throw in the towel.

Hurry up and throw that towel in Valerie.

I've got the Brains.

You've got the talent and tools.

Let's do it my way, we all win.

@valerie

Quote:I've been a member of that program for about 15 years and I am about
ready to throw in the towel.

You meant bad experience there & no living wage as promised?

hamsou73 wrote: Still in investigating process to make a decision if its worthy or not.

Till now I see its worthy for big recruiters only

I would have to do more research on the business, the concept, the break even factor.

If it's a one time pay, where is profit coming from.

I can only think of two ways.

One time commissions from referrals.

Profit sharing from member purchases on the inside.

But, for one time $12.00, you're not going to take a big beating.

However, their could be an advantage if the sponsor is dedicated and / or a heavy hitter.

Years ago. I use to join newbies thinking it would help them to only find out, they done moved
on to something else and never became a master of anything other than a master program
jumper.

Eh justs junk.

Seriously, I believe it was ok many years ago when it first started. I mean, it really
was worth the cost of $10 a month. Especially great for people that wanted or
needed an online presence or was simply looking for more ways to attach their
links.

However, times have changed and generations are growing. Today, more and
more youngsters know how to create their own websites, know how to blog,
and can even do those for mom and dad, or help.

The program truly has not kept up with what demands it should in order to
get more members onboard and keep them onboard. The stuff they implement
is money grabbers only and nothing realistic for the common person to utilize.

Many good hosting companies out there that will give you a dot com domain name
free and only charge you LESS than $10 a month with a push button wordpress,
forum, etc.

The guys that created the program, are older now too and filthy rich so they
just ride the waves, so to speak.

The push button website they have has always been very cheesy. Also very
difficult to make it look professional.

So today especially, it's really only about the money and to be perfectly clear
on that......it's too deep for what they offer.

And that other program you guys are talking about.....

hamsou73 wrote: @valerie

Quote:I've been a member of that program for about 15 years and I am about
ready to throw in the towel.

You meant bad experience there & no living wage as promised?

Val, not had a bad experience from that program.

Just a bad experience trying to help clueless members.


They come, they stay, they do nothing, they drop out. then talk smack
on a business they know nothing about, because they had no idea
what to do, too lazy think.

valerie wrote: Eh justs junk.

Seriously, I believe it was ok many years ago when it first started. I mean, it really
was worth the cost of $10 a month. Especially great for people that wanted or
needed an online presence or was simply looking for more ways to attach their
links.

However, times have changed and generations are growing. Today, more and
more youngsters know how to create their own websites, know how to blog,
and can even do those for mom and dad, or help.

The program truly has not kept up with what demands it should in order to
get more members onboard and keep them onboard. The stuff they implement
is money grabbers only and nothing realistic for the common person to utilize.

Many good hosting companies out there that will give you a dot com domain name
free and only charge you LESS than $10 a month with a push button wordpress,
forum, etc.

The guys that created the program, are older now too and filthy rich so they
just ride the waves, so to speak.

The push button website they have has always been very cheesy. Also very
difficult to make it look professional.

So today especially, it's really only about the money and to be perfectly clear
on that......it's too deep for what they offer.

Valerie,

Nothing has changed when it comes to hosting and domains.

That's all been around since beginning of time of hosting and domaining.

Rather which hosting company it is. The cost is still the same without the pay plan.

@ProAdCo

Profits come from referrals's purchase ( from ebooks within the company ) commissions when leveling up from level 1 to 2 & so forth.

Did you know any 4c heavy hitter out there?

It's all a bunch of bologna! It really is. I made a fortune from that bologna
over the years so I really shouldn't complain....and I am not complaining. I
am just giving good advice to people that don't know better.

If you can get a lot of people to enroll in your MLM so be it....but it is a never
ending battle. It's not only a never ending battle, it's a lot of work. I truly
earned every cent I made online. I never joined anything that I did not do
myself.

Plus, time's change. I always told everyone that if they wanted to make a
lot of money online, now is the time to do it because it may be a lot tougher
in the future. I still believe in what I said.

hamsou73 wrote: @ProAdCo

Profits come from referrals's purchase ( from ebooks within the company ) commissions when leveling up from level 1 to 2 & so forth.

Did you know any 4c heavy hitter out there?

4c never excited me.

Since you told me it's selling ebooks, now I know I'm not interested.

Going to give you a little tip.

If you don't control it, then you are just renting someone else business.

Invest in yourself for your own domain, website, you control the content,
you earn from contextual ads, you get free unlimited inbound traffic from
tens of thousands of internet search engines.

Everything else is smoking windows to the public while the site owners
counts the members money. Such as Manual traffic exchanges,
text ad sites, safelists, and any other business you can think of
that you can't manage other than maybe change your personal information
and maybe your user name and then run around advertising someone
else business that you do not own, but instead rent their site so
you can share commissions with the owner, where they get paid
unlimited levels, while you only get paid one level and too requires
mass personal signups.

@valerie

Its all about traffic at the end. no matter what genuine program you use.

If you are selling affiliate products on your website you need quality traffic.

If you are using MLM you need traffic .. & so on.


So the key is to know how to get fast traffic fo free.

hamsou73 wrote: @valerie

Its all about traffic at the end. no matter what genuine program you use.

If you are selling affiliate products on your website you need quality traffic.

If you are using MLM you need traffic .. & so on.


So the key is to know how to get fast traffic fo free.

Quality traffic is from those who seeks you out from the search engines for what they are looking for.

I'm like Donald Trump with his way of thinking.

Since you think anyway. Might as well think Big.

@ProAdCo

Its not that easy as you think it is.

I have a website on the first page of google for a keyword "idée cadeau femme 30 ans" which has more than 3000 serches per month & its a buying keyword & guess what? I got about 4-10 visits from it ( even after tweaking it to catch visitors eyes ).

I agree with you that traffic from SE is a quality traffic but its not easy as you think nowadays.