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#1 by walkinganomaly » Sat May 07, 2016 21:51

Has anyone here taken Microsoft up on their offer of getting Windows 10? Was it easy to do, do you like it? I have 2 computers with Windows 7, one gamer and one for my ptc stuff and household stuff, I'm on the fence as I really like 7. Any and all comments welcome, thanks in advance.
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#2 by dutch1898 » Sat May 07, 2016 22:11

It was real easyI did it 4 or 5 months ago
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#3 by Nikorj » Sun May 08, 2016 05:51

I bought a new gaming notebook with win 10 pre-installed.

I'll have to say it's way to buggy in it's current state.

If you're thinking about using it as a working platform i would not recommend it,setting menu crashes sometimes/ OftenThe os freezes up to 10 seconds when copy/move files or folders/nearly everytime the os sleeps up to 6 seconds when doing a simple task like opening a rar archive, To sum it up it seems that the system very often goes to sleep for no reason really???

Keep in mind that if your hardware is build on the latest 6th generation (Skylake) Architecture,It will be difficult and a nightmare dowgrading to win 7 again,I downgraded to win 7 again without any recovery options or old folders available (But it's not the same win 7 as it used to be).

A good thing in win 10 is the build-in Hyper V,If your bios supports it you can use it to install another os and use that instead.


My best advice would be to wait another 6-8 months before upgrading,At the moment we are beta-testers.

But you could try it out,If you're upgrading from 7 to 10 it should be easy to downgrade again.
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#4 by BouldRake » Sun May 08, 2016 10:09

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#5 by proadco » Sun May 08, 2016 10:18

When it says, they have finally fixed everything.


Now they can monitor, track, spy on you 24/7
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#6 by kbangash786 » Sun May 08, 2016 12:36

I Agree with ProAdCo
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#7 by Fellow » Sun May 08, 2016 12:54

Nikorj wrote: I bought a new gaming notebook with win 10 pre-installed.

I'll have to say it's way to buggy in it's current state.

If you're thinking about using it as a working platform i would not recommend it,setting menu crashes sometimes/ OftenThe os freezes up to 10 seconds when copy/move files or folders/nearly everytime the os sleeps up to 6 seconds when doing a simple task like opening a rar archive, To sum it up it seems that the system very often goes to sleep for no reason really???

Keep in mind that if your hardware is build on the latest 6th generation (Skylake) Architecture,It will be difficult and a nightmare dowgrading to win 7 again,I downgraded to win 7 again without any recovery options or old folders available (But it's not the same win 7 as it used to be).

A good thing in win 10 is the build-in Hyper V,If your bios supports it you can use it to install another os and use that instead.


My best advice would be to wait another 6-8 months before upgrading,At the moment we are beta-testers.

But you could try it out,If you're upgrading from 7 to 10 it should be easy to downgrade again.


I am not sure of your summation above. I upgraded in October last year and I have not had any issues yet. :roll:
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#8 by Fellow » Sun May 08, 2016 12:56

BouldRake wrote:


BR, thanks for the laugh. My ribs are aching me looking at that picture. :mrgreen:
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#9 by BouldRake » Sun May 08, 2016 13:58

I suppose it depends what you're doing.

I'm presently trying to write a client for 4OD and, logn story, basically I need to sniff the cryptography to see how the initial keypair is generated, and I can only do that somewhere it works, and the only place it works is Windows.

So, I booted into a Windows 10 VM, and tried to sniff the connection as it happened. I couldn't, because my sniffer needed dotnet. I tried to install dotnet, to discover I need some other update. I could update via the built in updates, but that wanted to throw several GB at me including updates for bizzare things like printers I don't own. All I wanted to do was look at a packet! In any other system, I can do that from the command line without even needing to boot to the desktop!

So I installed the update manually, and tried to install dotnet again, and it tells me that I can't anyway, because a different version is installed. I can't have two versions installed, which is odd - I can on Linux, and I could in previous versions of Windows - but I can't uninstall the new version either. It won't tell me why, it just won't let me.

So I try to go get another packet sniffer again, at which point it tells me my computer needs to be restarted because it's downloaded a tonne of the crap I didn't want mentioned above.

At this point, I gave up and figured it was less messing about to carry on reverse engineering a black box.

It's probably okay if you like a bit of handholding. If you want the machine to think for you, decide what's best for you and, in fairness, be right for 80% of users most of the time, then it's probably fine. It does spy on you, but so do FAcebook and Google, and you're probably using them, so that's not really relevant.

I don't think there is such a thing as a "power user" in Windows anymore though. The restraints have always been tighter than other platforms, but now they're positively claustrophobic. They've made it easy for the 80% of users who don't want to think at the expense of making it hard, and in many cases impossible, for the 20% who do. Assuming you're one of the 80%, though, that's not a bad thing.

If you like full control, and maximum freedom and security, choose BSD. But check your hardware first.

If you like to tinker, choose Linux.

If you like to tinker and play games released prior to 2005, use Linux,

If you like to tinker and play games, released after 2005, stick with Windows 7 or earlier.

If you want your computer to perhaps be a bit easier to use - but at the cost of any configurability, choice, or control, choose Windows 10. There's nothing wrong with it if that's your kind of thing. I don't hate Microsoft, it's products just offer the opposite thing that would be interesting to me personally.
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#10 by BlizZzard » Sun May 08, 2016 14:11

Disable 'Cortana' if you don't want Microsoft to spy on you..

+

Change some privacy settings.
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#11 by zegon » Sun May 08, 2016 14:43

I also don't ''hate'' Microsoft ( coughing )

I upgraded from Win 8.1 to 10 and have not had any problems with it on my ASUS Vivo computer.

To upgrade from Win 7 to 10 should not be any problems, as long as the hardware in your computer is compatible, as i see it.

As i understand it all, so did all that had Win 8.1 get a free upgrage to Win 10, but this offer is valid also for Win 7 then ??

My absolutely all first Windows was shipped on a 1MB floppy disc, i think that was called Win 3.1, but it is around 20 years ago now.

The best Windows i've had was Win 98, Win 95 was quite okay as well, but Win 2000 is probably the worst i have experienced ( The Blue Screen Version )

( I do not even want to think about Win Vista, it makes me aggressive )

I bought incidentally my first computer in 1979, a Comodore Vic 20, then it was an Atari 800 ( which was only available at office stores ), then a ATARI 1050,then a ATARI ST520 and so on.

( Got a nostalgia trip here :-)
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#12 by BouldRake » Sun May 08, 2016 14:54

Oh, I was so excited to find an Atari 800 on the market three or four years ago. They only wanted £10 too. "They have no idea it's a collectors item!" I thought smugly...until I got it home. I didn't expect it to work, but I didn't expect it to be - literally - burnt out inside either.

My first love, of course, was the Amtrad CPC 664. It's very collectible now, because it was only out for a few months. At the time, it was very frustrating - because the next model was about the same price, but had 128KB of RAM instead of the 64KB mine had.
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#13 by walkinganomaly » Sun May 08, 2016 20:52

Wow! Thanks everyone, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna stick with 7, Win 98 SE was my first OS, and I really like 7. I did some browsing online to see what others thought of 10 and I've come to the conclusion that I don't need to fix what is NOT broken.
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#14 by Nikorj » Mon May 09, 2016 02:48

Fellow wrote:
Nikorj wrote: I bought a new gaming notebook with win 10 pre-installed.

I'll have to say it's way to buggy in it's current state.

If you're thinking about using it as a working platform i would not recommend it,setting menu crashes sometimes/ OftenThe os freezes up to 10 seconds when copy/move files or folders/nearly everytime the os sleeps up to 6 seconds when doing a simple task like opening a rar archive, To sum it up it seems that the system very often goes to sleep for no reason really???

Keep in mind that if your hardware is build on the latest 6th generation (Skylake) Architecture,It will be difficult and a nightmare dowgrading to win 7 again,I downgraded to win 7 again without any recovery options or old folders available (But it's not the same win 7 as it used to be).

A good thing in win 10 is the build-in Hyper V,If your bios supports it you can use it to install another os and use that instead.


My best advice would be to wait another 6-8 months before upgrading,At the moment we are beta-testers.

But you could try it out,If you're upgrading from 7 to 10 it should be easy to downgrade again.


I am not sure of your summation above. I upgraded in October last year and I have not had any issues yet. :roll:

I think Microsoft are using selective updates for specific Regions/Countries,Some users ends up in trouble and some not(Just a hunch).

Been using a lot of time with workarounds on this os than any previous versions of windows,Also paid over 200$ for something that's not working properly (It's not ok).

Also had a lot of other issues,All my desktop shortcuts are just Blank/White sheets w. no image on them (Even the recycle bin),After 1 week an update arrived and voila!! all the shortcuts had images on them,Then after 3 days a new update arrived!! And voila now they're all just white again (And nope!! nothing happens when trying to add images to them the manual way).

Bought 10 digital blu-ray movies and had them on a internal drive on my win 7 laptop,Then i thought hey!! why not move them to a external drive and then move them to my new notebooks internal drive,Switched to my new notebook/Highlighted all the movies and dragged them to one of my drives. Message "The files do not exist" ???????,Then i tried opening one of them and again "The files do not exist" WTF??,Then i closed the window and opened it again And they were all gone (It's F...... 40gb of movies) And they just vanished????,I did not format the drive and all my other archives+files is still there,Spend the next 4 hours looking for them with Recuva (Nothing nada nips) :x .

Window pop-ups when installing games/programs are often so small that it's bloody nearly impossible to see what the hell is written on them,Yep welcome to the magnifier (get used to it,Cause you're going to use it a lot) + wrong scaling so that those important checkboxes are simply not visible or the next/install option simply do not appear in the window.

Why are all my administrator settings resetted everytime i good damn restart or turn on my laptop again,I'm using the administrator account and UAC is turned off.

Sorry this is turning into a phd on win 10,Oh yes!! I did notice all the complaints about it before using it myself,Now i know why they're complaining

And what about the UI of the Os????,Is it just me or does it look like something made by LEGO??? Blockish squarish ugly.

I'f Linux wasn't such a bad gaming platform i would have moved over there in an instant,Take a peek at Microsoft community forums,And you will see an endless list of complaint's and troubleshooting from A-Z
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#15 by zegon » Mon May 09, 2016 04:29

In Win 10 i can no longer drag shortcuts to the desktop with the right mouse button, as i could do earlier.

Or is it just my brain has started to shrink.

@ walkinganomaly

It's true, you should never try to fix something that is not broken.

But sooner or later, so you still have to switch operating systems.

As in my case, i was pleased with my Win XP, but my bank began to complain about at my XP started to become a security risk, because Microsoft no longer upgrade it and i was then forced to upgrade to Win 8.1

And this will happen with Win 7 also sooner or later.

But it might in some cases be good not to upgrade their operating system forren you have to do it, because if you are happy and everything is working well so there was no reason to change it.

It is certainly my opinion...

I was already happy with my Win 8.1 but got greedy when i could get the Win 10 absolutely free.

So my brain tricked me greatly at the time... :P
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#16 by Nikorj » Mon May 09, 2016 05:14

I'm not having any problems creating shortcuts,It's just that they're white sheets w. no image on them (Looks quite boring).

And yes Win 10 is free,But in my case i've paid for it,Am i happy and satisfied??? NO the hell not.

Microsoft is the big giant here and they've certainly changed their tactics this time,Instead of delivering an os that makes you want to use it,They're now scaring and forcing everyone over as fast as possible on their beta patching project.

It's like buying a Bethesda game,You know it's broken right from the beginning,It will be patched over time but never fixed completely.

About spying??? But Facebook and Google are already doing it,Yes!! But it's still your choice however youre using those services or not, This is your OS,Go ahead and turn that off.
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#17 by Nikorj » Mon May 09, 2016 05:16

BouldRake wrote:

He he he,The landing wheels are a bit misplaced :lol:
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#18 by Fellow » Mon May 09, 2016 07:01

Gentlemen, I have read the posts above. What I can clearly discern (though not in all cases) is the fact that we want to customize the OS. I believe that is where most of the issues are coming from.

I am not a 'POWER USER'. My needs are simplistic. Maybe that is why I have not had issues till date. I still go with the view of Zegon above: "Why fix what is not broken?"

For those who innocently have issues, I sympathize with you.

Great day.
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#19 by Krish900 » Mon May 09, 2016 07:05

Windows 10 has major privacy issues so i would avoid it. Im still on windows 7 , the last good windows in my opinion.
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#20 by zegon » Mon May 09, 2016 08:47

Krish900 wrote: Windows 10 has major privacy issues so i would avoid it. Im still on windows 7 , the last good windows in my opinion.

It is probably a wise decision.

In the meanwhile, Microsoft will have time to fix them most of the bugs in Win 10

So when it's your turn to upgrade, then Win 10 mabye have been a better option.

For sooner or later you will have to upgrade your OS and it could be the day that Microsoft will stop upgrading Win 7, we will be there even if we do not want it.
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