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To lose weight=excessive daily exercise?

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To Lose Weight, You Need Excessive Daily Exercise?

Poll ended Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:22  »  Voted by 52 members  »  Single-choice
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#1 by valerie » Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:36

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I Want A Twinkie
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#2 by Fellow » Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:00

You do not need excessive daily exercises. A daily 15 minutes minimum workout is enough.
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#3 by Charez » Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:05

stop pizza first :lol:
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#4 by BouldRake » Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:18

Exercise is pointless. If you have to exercise to stay fit, you've already lost. It's a chore, something you have to do, something you have to find time for.

You have to integrate it into your life, and then it's not exercise at all, it's "going to the shop" or "walking to town".
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#5 by tasman1 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 15:16

Documentary last night about that

20 sec , 3 times a day

must be extreme , rapid . full force . one must give max in that 20 sec

One year study say it makes wonder
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#6 by BouldRake » Sat Sep 24, 2016 15:36

Doesn't every teenage boy on the planet do that already?
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#7 by luis1432 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 15:45

I lost 25 pounds by jumping rope. When i’m in shape i can keep jumping rope for 1hr without stop. So thats was my daily cardio exercise to lose weight, 1 hr of jumping rope.
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#8 by tasman1 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 15:54

BouldRake wrote: Doesn't every teenage boy on the planet do that already?



No , it was not about extreme sport , it is about 20 second of max exercises , one must give 100% , rapid body shakes
good for weight loss and 50% less chance to have diabetes in future

for me , i do not care much , my height is 178 cm and have 69 kg , in short skinny one [ skeleton :mrgreen: ]
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#9 by nursemorph » Sat Sep 24, 2016 22:34

To lose weight is about eating sensibly and not taking in more than you burn off. A couple of years ago, I lost 3 1/2 stone in weight in 5 months purely by stopping the 2 teaspoons of sugar I had in my mugs of tea and coffee (equated to about 30 teaspoons of sugar a day!!)...that was the only thing I changed to lose the weight.

If you don't do much exercise, then don't eat lots of carbohydrates (potatoes, bread, pasts etc) as they will convert into fat if not burned off. Eat in moderation...if you normally have 3 baked potatoes for a meal, for example, then just eat two instead or one if you have a sedentary lifestyle.

Ultimately, 90% of diets will fail as most people cannot keep it going as they get bored or find the restrictions too much..you are more likely to succeed by eating sensibly and the right proportions as you can still eat foods that you enjoy
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#10 by Marcel-R6 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 05:00

Fellow wrote:
You do not need excessive daily exercises. A daily 15 minutes minimum workout is enough.

Actually it is 20 minutes after that your body starts to burn fat.
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#11 by shadecat » Sun Sep 25, 2016 07:05

TO lose weight,,,Keep yourself out of the refrigerator! :D
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#12 by valerie » Sun Sep 25, 2016 07:37

BouldRake, I believe came the closest to hitting the nail on the head.
(Not about the teenage boys, as my like there was a mistake :lol: )

Way too much emphasis is on exercise.

What you do in regards to exercise, you best plan on doing the rest of your life OR don't do it at all!

I think yoyo exercising can be just as bad for a person, if not worse, than yoyo dieting.

Have you ever noticed how people get fat and out of shape when they retire? It is not just because
metabolism slows. It's because they are no longer living the life style they had for many years.

I don't believe it is about doing exercises two or three days a week.

I believe it is about being active every day of the week. Clean house. Go for a walk. Work in the garden.

It's all about common sense and living a common sense life style. Once you deviate from that, you'll find
yourself in trouble.
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#13 by Darkstar2 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 14:02

ah perfect topic to answer :D

There is so much myth in this industry and misinformation could write a book about that but there are too many lol.

You do not *NEED* excessive exercise - Too much of g a good thing is not good. To lose weight you need to consume less calories than your total energy expenditure. In simple terms, excess consumption causes the body to store as fat. The problem here, is that not everyone is created equal, many factors will determine how much you can eat or not eat, depending on your metabolic rate. Some people can eat ridiculously high amounts and remain skinny (me when I was in my childhood years LOL) and you have those who barely eat and gain weight (hormonal issues, health issues, medication, etc.).

We all are burning energy even doing nothing (resting metabolic rate) - exercising helps you burn more than your base metabolic rate and lose weight faster than doing nothing, however, there is a big catch. If you exercise excessively and you create a calorie deficit too big, over time your body will adjust and down regulate your metabolism and you will stall ! This is why crash diets fail and people who starve themselves and exercise can actually have all kinds of other issues, messed up hormones, etc.

It is simple, eat more than you energy requirement = you gain weight.
Eat less than your calories requirement = lose weight
If the amount of calories you eat equals your daily maintenance = you don't lose / don't gain.

But there is another catch, not all calories are created equal - you also have to take into account that digestion uses up calories too :)

So reasonable exercise, proper nutrition, change in life styles, being active whilst NOT over exerting yourself, and making sure not to create too big of a deficit... Those 500-800 kcal diets won't cut it, try not to create a deficit higher than 25% of your maintenance - SLOW weight loss = weight loss you normally keep. FAST and unsafe weight loss = you will likely gain quickly and more. Don't give your body a chance to down regulate too much. Slow and steady for long term results.

Then comes the TYPE of foods you eat. If you are eating foods high in carbs, you can do all the exercising you want, you will mostly burn glycogen - remember your body wants to get rid of sugar first, fat last, so in priority it is depleting your glycogen store first (and most of it is stored in your liver), the rest in your muscles. Some people do low carbs to lose weight fast, as your body gets adapted to burn fat (Ketosis state) but this is not required either, you can still lose weight on a diet with the proper balance of fat, protein, carbs. Some exercise favour burning glycogen stores and others are using more fat storage - so the TYPE of foods you eat and TYPE of exercise is important.
If you exercise heavily and eat 3 whole bread sticks that will be counterproductive lol.
If you cut your calories and carbs too much your leptin levels tank, and that too is counter productive. Too much of the wrong exercise = increase in cortisol level (the stress hormone) which is not good.

A balance of the right exercise and right foods goes a long way.

GRADUAL changes is best. Making drastic cuts = bad.

If you consume 5 bread sticks + 6 packs daily, try to cut something, say, 3 cans of soda instead and 2 bread sticks, then gradually replace the unhealthy foods you eat with alternative, healthier food.
Those who are on a high carb diet and make some small changes will notice the most great results.

Also another thing - there is no miracle to FAT LOSS........ LOSING WEIGHT is one thing, LOSING FAT is another, it is a long process - if you exercise heavily, and go on the scale it will register a number few pounds lower, you did not lose weight you lost water and it's associated glycogen you burned off. To lose actual weight you need to burn around 3500 calories - and you won't be doing that in one session at the gym and if you do, I don't recommend it, lol.

High carbers or diabetics will have a harder time losing weight due to the medication and high insulin levels - people who are insulin resistant also will have a harder time.

Remember everything in moderation - that includes exercise.
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#14 by BouldRake » Sun Sep 25, 2016 14:19

In competitive sports, we don't talk about exercising too much, we talk about peaking, but that's exactly what peaking is - riding the wave between over training, under training, and just the right amount of training for your most important events.

I stopped training a few years ago, and stopped racing seriously - but I can turn up at a race and still win, or at least, be competitive even though I haven't ridden a single training mile. Cycling is my primary mode of transport, and that's all it takes. It's true I'm slowing down, but I'm slowing down because I'm old. I'm probably slowing down a little faster without proper training, but I'll say it again - I can still win.

Whether you're serious in a competitive sport, or just want to live a bit longer, building exercise into your life is the way to do it.
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#15 by tasman1 » Sun Sep 25, 2016 14:44

Eat as you eat now for 6 day
Once a week eat nothing for 24 hours
On that day drink 4-5 l of water , just water , important . JUST WATER
You will be slim in no time
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#16 by Piddles » Mon Sep 26, 2016 00:07

I all the sudden want some Twinkies now :lol:
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#17 by realpizza » Mon Sep 26, 2016 03:13

Darkstar2 hit the nail on the head. You'll lose weight as long the energy you take in (from eating) is less than the energy that you use up.

There is also the difference between simply losing weight and losing weight healthily.
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#18 by libertyed » Mon Sep 26, 2016 03:43

To loose weight, start by eating the right foods, Plant Food such as veg,fruit, and nuts organic if you can get it. Eat less processed can foods, no oils, no bacon, take some excise, such as walking for 1/2 - 1 hour each day, and give thanks to nature that's all around us :clap:
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#19 by valerie » Mon Sep 26, 2016 06:42

On the show 'The Biggest Loser' the trainer works very obese people with very excessive exercise.
It's very stupid. He cuts their food down to almost nil. Those are people that weight like 300 pounds
on upwards. I've heard all of them but one or two gained the weight back.

People have to change their life style in order to lose weight and maintain the weight. If you can't
live with the change you made, then you are going to gain the weight back.

If you can't push a tire up a hill for the rest of your life, you should never start doing it.

Instead, I believe those people should have been taught how to take a nice brisk walk daily, how to do
some simple yoga exercises. How to not deprive themselves from the twinkles but learn not to eat an
entire box daily.

I was really surprised that a lot of members here voted for 'excessive daily exercise'.
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#20 by Marcel-R6 » Mon Sep 26, 2016 06:49

Eh,I voted 'excessive daily exercise'. because I train a lot just to stay in shape and not to lose weight.

For me it is just a matter of Self-discipline and nothing else.
And the "The Biggest Loser"is just another sad/lame reality show.
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