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Animal Testing for cosmetic Banned in Europe

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So, how are they going to test now ?

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#1 by Charez » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:08

This time, it's official. And this is very good news for defenders of the animals, and for others also. :D
The European Union has recently decided to end animal testing in the cosmetics sector. For European markets at least.

not any product whose components have been tested on animals - rats, rabbits or other - will be accepted. In addition, "Union makes no distinction according to the place where animal experimentation has been carried out". "

European justice hopes to promote the use of ' alternative methods not using the animal to ensure the safety of cosmetics '. " For now, the penalties for crime are decided by the country in which the wrongdoing is found, this could evolve.

In a more general way, it's the ethics of man towards the cosmetics industry which should evolve to, finally, finally, without the animals.
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#2 by valerie » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:38

In todays world, there is really no point in testing products on animals.

Science knows what chemicals do and how chemicals react with other chemicals.

In my opinion, in regards to cosmetics, people would be better off without them and save a ton of money to boot.
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#3 by BouldRake » Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:56

We can't have an outright ban on animal testing. There are still a few cases where in vivo testing is the only thing we can use - though we're getting close to the stage where it isn't.

Animal testing isn't necessarily evil either. As I said the last time this topic came up, experimental biogerontology depends on animal testing not because they can't ethically test on humans, but because humans live too damn long to take place in trials that measure life expectancy.

But testing for cosmetics is beneath any civilised society...and most cosmetics advertise themselves as being able to you look younger, while simultaneously ageing your skin, and causing you to look older and need cosmetics to make you look younger in the first place...

All in all, I don't oppose animal testing - I just think the animal testing rules need to be updated to include all animals; if you wouldn't do it to an animal that happens to be the same species as you, you shouldn't do it to any animal at all.
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#4 by lotoole » Sun Oct 02, 2016 12:23

I'm delighted that animal testing is now banned in the European Union and I hope that cosmetics companies do not work around the rule by using products tested in other countries.

Wearing furs, leather or cosmetics produced with the use of animal testing, always reminded me of that terrible animated character in the Disney movie, 101 Dalmatians, who tried to steal puppies so she could wear their fur. Ironic that she tried so hard to be beautiful because nothing is uglier than cruelty.

Animal testing is quite redundant and can be incredibly cruel for the animals. At times it seems those who benefit the most from such testing is not the public but rather the researchers who use grant money for their meal ticket. One test in the US involved a university forcing dogs to run on treadmills until they died of heart attacks. The study caused great stress and suffering for the animals, and never yielded test results that had any value for humans.

At some point, we have to evolve past our specieism where we feel we're so superior to all other living things that we can do whatever we wish to do with them.

This is a thought provoking subject to me because one of the greatest minds of our time is the famed physicist, Stephen Hawking. Hawking has dire warnings for those scientists seeking other intelligent life in the universe and daily broadcasting our location out into the deep reaches of space. Basically, he says to be careful of what we attract because they may not necessarily be impressed with us. He says such cultural clashes didn't end so well for Native Americans. So, what does this have to do with animal testing? We may see a time when we see visitors from far, far away. (Some scientists say possibly within our lifetime.) And we may just find ourselves on the other side of the testing and vivisection issue, looking up at the knife. You know what they say . . . karma is a b . . . .
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#5 by valerie » Sun Oct 02, 2016 14:02

Ya, that is all very true also, lotoole.

In my opinion, people have not done too great a job at producing food. In one way, they have
taken the lazy route. They say people that eat people are horrible and it's the unthinkable. Yet,
people don't blink an eye when biting into a hamburger.

Some people do believe that humans are nothing more than cattle, not much different than cattle.
One does have to beg the argument that cattle may actually be smarter than people. It does seem
that every living thing wants to eat another living thing. It's a shame that anything has to eat to
survive. Cattle seem to enjoy life, that is until taken to slaughter.

I believe beauty in regards to what we look like, our skin, aging, is mostly due to heredity and I
don't think in this point in time, we can do anything about that. The next part is defined mostly
by what we put in and on our bodies.

Not wanting to step on any toes but I will say that I think make up on most people, looks terrible.
I think it looks plastic. And when you get on up there in age, such as my age, make up just looks
absolutely horrible on older women. A little make up to emphasize the natural, I think is fine. Today
however, it looks as if women are going overboard with make up.
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#6 by rijo33 » Sun Oct 02, 2016 14:35

in my teens i had different model contracts for cosmetics and also for hair products.
Was a while also for a haute couture stylist on the road to shows.
My skin was not bad, but i was always happy when i could apply only water and a cream totaly natural.
For the hair I had to stop, they were broken
Since I switched to sports, I started looking for the contents of the products to be interested and listened to all this Sh .... usable. and I found out that they test everything on animals :oops: :oops: :oops:
Since then (35 years) are no longer needed this.
Pure nature, back to the roots, as my grandmother taught me.
But for Animal Testing i hope vreally this is then also controlled.
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#7 by lotoole » Mon Oct 03, 2016 21:46

I should add that in my area, the most beautiful complexions I have noticed are those of Amish women. They wear no make up and do not use cleansing or anti-aging products from cosmetic companies.
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