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#21 by True-Democracy » Sun Nov 13, 2016 19:04

Maybe, i mean who knows. maybe it could be like that.
But what i do know is that every star system contains a number of planets including some sort of sun or similar like ours.
Star systems are slowly drifting further away from each other, little by little. This means that sooner or later there are no more planetary systems visible outside of our own.
Therefore colonising other planets on other systems will be nothing more then a shattered dream since the distance will be so great that it's impossible to reach or even colonise those systems.

We Humans should start planetary colonization as soon as possible to build our first Galactic Empire :twisted:
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#22 by valerie » Sun Nov 13, 2016 20:16

Actually, one thing I am absolutely certain of, beyond any shadow of a doubt, is there really
is a higher power that knows everything we do and hears all. Once you have felt that and
experienced a communication path, you never forget it.

It's fun to think of the possibilities but one also must realize the realities. We are in fact
all real and everything on this planet is real.

I think the main questions humans have is NOT are we real but ARE WE ALONE? How
did we really get here? Who put us here?

I think when we are children we grow up with the beliefs of our parents. Some where
along the way, we may begin feeling a bit over whelmed when we realize there is
thousands of beliefs and can we be so closed minded as to believe ours is the right one?
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#23 by BouldRake » Sun Nov 13, 2016 20:32

So, there's some kind of higher power, who knows everything we do, and hears all - presumably they created us then?

Wouldn't that be perfectly consistent with the simulation theory? You're in a simulation created by this higher power?
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#24 by tasman1 » Sun Nov 13, 2016 20:46

BouldRake wrote: So, there's some kind of higher power, who knows everything we do, and hears all - presumably they created us then?

Wouldn't that be perfectly consistent with the simulation theory? You're in a simulation created by this higher power?





It’s amazing that humans exist. For life to start on Earth, we needed everything to be just right. We’re the perfect distance away from the Sun, the atmosphere has the correct composition, and gravity is just powerful enough. And though there may be many other planets with those conditions, life gets even more impressive when you widen your perspective beyond Earth. If some cosmic factor like dark energy were even a little stronger, life probably wouldn’t exist, either here or anywhere else in the universe.

The anthropic principle asks, Why? Why did these conditions come about so perfectly for us?

One explanation is that the conditions were deliberately set in place with the intention of giving us life. Every convenient factor was a fixed condition in some vast lab experiment. The factors were just plugged into the universe, and then the simulation was started. This let existence and our individual planet evolve the way it has.
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#25 by BouldRake » Sun Nov 13, 2016 21:09

Quote:The anthropic principle asks, Why? Why did these conditions come about so perfectly for us?

That's not really the anthropic principle, that's more getting a priori and post hoc the wrong way round.
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#26 by perfectshops » Sun Nov 13, 2016 21:32

Tasman you started all this :!: Taken all of us through this dream sequence; just pinch yourself and wake up, man :? Your theory could have been right if this had been a perfect world, without any trouble, without any problems, when all are thinking in the same way and everyone is like minded :idea: But it is not so, the world is an imperfect place and if you are a programmer you will not include bugs into your program, right :?: And if you look at it these bugs keep repeating so there is no program that is removing this bugs, right :?: If all these were to be a computer program then you will not even get any thoughts like this, you would not be even reasoning like this at all other than what the computer would allow you to :!: Since you are thinking of all these stuff, and you are writing about it and other people are discussing about it, clearly means that human beings are not under any computer program :idea: So it is time to come back to :clixsense: and start working. Wake up everybody and have a great day :thumbup:
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#27 by BouldRake » Sun Nov 13, 2016 21:42

Quote: if you are a programmer you will not include bugs into your program, right

99 little bugs in the code,
99 little bugs,
Take one down,
Patch it around,
101 little bugs in the code.

Yes, if you're a programmer you include bugs in your program.
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#28 by tasman1 » Sun Nov 13, 2016 21:46

perfectshops..... if you are a programmer you will not include bugs into your program......

My dear , bugs are normal in any programing , just look around
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#29 by valerie » Sun Nov 13, 2016 23:21

How do you know that imperfections are imperfections?

According to you know what, everything WAS perfect.

There is a few things that are rather evident:

1. The past - according to the art work left behind thousands of years ago, there were astronauts, air craft, and more that appears to have ....

2. The future - came from the future or from another planet
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#30 by BouldRake » Sun Nov 13, 2016 23:41

valerie wrote: How do you know that imperfections are imperfections?

Tasman told me. I took his word for it.
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#31 by pindokhan123 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 01:54

when the world was created ,there was nothing on this planet,except,mountains,air,the sea and soil.......from basically the 4 elements needed for survival on this planet man has made remarkable discoveries from these.
he has utilized everything from day one,for example we didnt have clothes,so the first thing i presume covered man were leaves,moss and other stuff then animal skins ,then as he developed mentally,the need for necessity grew and he gradually made other things.
today we look at the world and think its a miracle that all we know and have ,came from virtually nothing,yet it has taken thousands of years to get this far.
i strongly agree with valerie,that we are definitely not alone.

i am very interested in Egyptian history,one thing i came across sometime ago was that in their hieroglyphics,there were pictures of aliens or some kind of being standing next to round spaceships...now that had me baffled? aliens over 2000 years ago?

the pyramids have astounded archaeologists for centuries,huge blocks of stone moved from the bottom to the top,how was it possible in an era where technology was non-existent.

another miracle is to look at a snowflake which has been magnified hundreds of times and you will be amazed,in fact when i looked at the different patterns i was literally gobsmacked!
even the smallest thing that we take for granted was perfectly created by someone unimaginable.

link to snowflake


https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTlI1Tfl-BUEmLO-rKibC5lvBcpZECd8lz3uAOT951OEdLhA4Iy
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#32 by valerie » Mon Nov 14, 2016 08:13

Have you thought about how things are baffling until we uncover the baffle? :lol:

Look at Easter Island, as an example. For many years people were amazed at the
statues in wonder how in the world could they get those huge boulders in place and
lined up? Also, what happen to the people on Easter Island? Where did they go?
It was very baffling.

In fact, it was very simple how they moved the boulders. All they did was rock
them. Or at least, in real life experiment, it was easily done. Have you ever
moved a heavy piece of furniture by yourself? What do you do? Some times you
push one corner forward a bit and then you push the other side corner a bit and
you keep doing that until you have that heavy piece of furniture where you want
it.

The people on Easter Island probably starved themselves to death with their
religion in making those statues. They had to cut down trees to use as a
means to roll the boulders and perhaps use as a lever too. Once they carved
the boulder into a statue, they probably rolled and swayed back and forth the
statue into place. The trees were their main and perhaps only source of shelter,
food, etc. When there are trees, there are birds and other creatures, not to
mention fruit such as coconut. They had birds, eggs, fruit, etc.....all due to the
trees. BUT they used up all the trees and therefore diminished their shelter,
food supply, etc.

Some times things seem impossible until we realize the possibilities.
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#33 by Andythemagicaff » Mon Nov 14, 2016 19:56

Honestly, I've also entertained this idea before as I like to explore different possibilities which humans can exist... But as we all know, these are just theories and it's only a matter of time before we can find out the whole truth...:)
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#34 by pindokhan123 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 02:02

if i had one wish and that one wish i had,i would wish to go back in time,right to the beginnings ,even before the world was created,before adam and eve................see how it was then...then i would go back and forward through time itself....
i would definitely change alot of things in my own life for sure.....
alas this is not possible,just a dream that i wish were true :(
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#35 by tasman1 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 02:10

pindokhan123 wrote: if i had one wish and that one wish i had,i would wish to go back in time,right to the beginnings ,even before the world was created,before adam and eve................see how it was then...then i would go back and forward through time itself....
i would definitely change alot of things in my own life for sure.....
alas this is not possible,just a dream that i wish were true :(



I can ask creator to restart computer
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#36 by BouldRake » Tue Nov 15, 2016 04:56

pindokhan123 wrote: i would definitely change alot of things in my own life for sure.....
alas this is not possible,just a dream that i wish were true :(

Quote:Personally of course I regret everything. Not a word, not a deed, not a thought, not a need, not a grief, not a joy, not a girl, not a boy, not a doubt, nor a trust, not a scorn, not a lust, not a hope, not a fear, not a smile, not a tear, not a name, not a face, no time, no place, that I do not regret, exceedingly. An ordure, from beginning to end. And yet, when I sat for Fellowship, but for the boil on my bottom... The rest, an ordure. The Tuesday scowls, the Wednesday growls, the Thursday curses, the Friday howls, the Saturday snores, the Sunday yawns, the Monday morns, the Monday mourns. The whacks, the moans, the cracks, the groans, the welts, the squeaks, the belts, the shrieks, the pricks, the prayers, the kicks, the tears, the skelps, and the yelps. And the poor old lousy old earth my earth and my father's and my mother's and my father's father's and my mother's mother's and my father's mother's and my mother's father's and my father's mother's father's and my mother's father's mother's and my father's mother's mother's and my mother's father's father's and my father's father's mother's and my mother's mother's father's and my father's father's father's and my mother's mother's mother's and other people's fathers' and mothers'. An excrement. The crocuses and the larch turning green every year a week before the others and the pastures red with uneaten sheep's placentas and the long summer days and the newmown hay and the wood·pigeon in the morning and the cuckoo in the afternoon and the corncrake in the evening and the wasps in the jam and the smell of the gorse and the look of the gorse and the apples falling and the children walking in the dead leaves and the larch turning brown a week before the others and the chestnuts falling and the howling winds and the sea breaking over the pier and the first fires and the hooves on the road and the consumptive postman whistling The Roses Are Blooming in Picardy and the standard oillamp and of course the snow and to he sure the sleet and bless your heart the slush and every fourth year the February debacle and the endless April showers and the crocuses and then the whole bloody business starting all over again. A turd. And if I could begin it all over again, knowing what I know now, the result would be the same. And if I could begin again a third time, knowing what I would know then, the result would be the same. And if I could begin it all over again a hundred times, knowing each time a little more than the time before, the result would always be the same, and the hundredth life as the first, and the hundred lives as one. A cat's flux. But at this rate we shall he here all night.

-- Sam Becket
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#37 by tasman1 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 05:16

BouldRake and pindokhan .... do not worry to much

your program will change , creator will restart computer and fix all glitches , you will be perfect in your next role
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#38 by valerie » Tue Nov 15, 2016 07:46

Maybe it goes something like this....

John says to Sam, there is few people left on the planet and everything is being destroyed
by those robots and the south park boys. Lets fly back in time and change this stuff.

Sam says to John, if we do that, we'll need to be careful not to change much, otherwise
we could blow the entire earth up.

John says to Sam, you're right. I have an idea. Let's write some books and scrolls and
stuff and leave them where people can find them. We'll tell them they must be kind to
one another.

Sam says to John, ok. Well, we need to give them a reason to be kind to one another.
I know. Let's create a super higher power. If they abide by the rules we leave, they
will get rewarded for eternity and if they don't they will burn for eternity.

John says to Sam, good idea. Let's get to work writing the books. We'll throw in some
thee's and thou's and backwards writing to make it really look authentic and get them
scratching their heads.

Same says to John, Ha Ha, Ok.

The books are written......

Sam says to John, glad we're done. Let's get out 'to the past' suits on. Here we
go.......hey, by the way......let's create some weird stuff just for fun......we'll call
weird names too like 'pyramids'.

-----------

HELP! Too much ClixSense forum for me at 6 in the morn!
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#39 by pindokhan123 » Tue Nov 15, 2016 08:04

valerie when you guys are getting up,us folk here are hitting the sack,,i understand when u say its too much in da morning,,,,just have another brew,coffee,energy drink!
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#40 by True-Democracy » Tue Nov 15, 2016 08:39

Everyone watch this:

Our tiny World
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