imab99 wrote: Ehehehe actually it's quite rare where I live
So rare that I would feel like a chimp in a zoo with everyone staring at me
But I'm not smoking pipe any longer, it's terrible for one's teeth, now I cut the pipe tobacco into very small pieces and roll it in paper

You need to try this

Here's a major undertaking by the US Govt (in the news 2 days ago):

"Smoking to be prohibited in federally subsidized public housing nationwide as soon as early next year, under a rule announced Wednesday by feds"

How are they going to (effectively) monitor housing projects for smokers?

I remember as a kid walking by the side of the street and looking up to my left and seeing a billboard, and on it was a huge marlboro poster depicting the "Marlboro man" sitting on his horse with a cigarette in his mouth and looking really cool with his Hat and cowboy outfit.

...silence.......drums....

Many years later i was smoking a marlboro cigarette while walking by the side of the street and looking up to my left but not seeing any marlboro poster showing the "Marlboro man" sitting on his horse because earlier i found out that the "Marlboro man" (Wayne McLaren) had died of cancer.

I remember cigarette machines in the entryway or foyer or just the very front of A LOT of businesses (name brands sold for maybe 50 cents a pack?), and anybody that wanted/dared to - of any age - could waltz right in and buy them.

hahaha! cig machines with big awkward pull knobs, funny memories!

I finally kicked my 40-a-day habit nearly five years ago & it is probably the best thing I have done in the last 20 years. I now have plenty of money to do the things I enjoy, my health has improved out-of-sight, and I can afford to buy the good steak at the supermarket instead of the budget packs.

Nowadays, with all of the options available to quit smoking here in Australia (stop-smoking aids such as patches and tablets are subsidised by the govt), I think anyone who continues to smoke is a stubborn fool. I should know - I used to be one of them!

Smoking is just a very, very long suicide attempt.

seaeagle wrote: I finally kicked my 40-a-day habit nearly five years ago & it is probably the best thing I have done in the last 20 years. I now have plenty of money to do the things I enjoy, my health has improved out-of-sight, and I can afford to buy the good steak at the supermarket instead of the budget packs.

Nowadays, with all of the options available to quit smoking here in Australia (stop-smoking aids such as patches and tablets are subsidised by the govt), I think anyone who continues to smoke is a stubborn fool. I should know - I used to be one of them!

Smoking is just a very, very long suicide attempt.

Au fact

tobacco price , up, up up, No of smokers down , down , down

drugs price , down , down , down , No of drug users up , up , up

Nice Au story , govt like it

Now they inventing ,,,medicinal drugs ,, it will be nice new money for govt

Ya, I am one of those people that say, if I can quit smoking, anyone can. I believe that.

I started smoking when I was ten years old. My sister that is over 4 years older than I, smoked.
Most of us as kids had an older sibling that smoked. Yes, in the 60's we had lots of commercials
of beer and cigarettes. The land of sky blue waters and the ever famous Marlboro man. Even
TV shows displayed people smoking....all of those Twilight Zone type shows...and even Rod
died of cancer.....always had a cigarette in his mouth/hand. Dean Martin, cigarette in one hand,
whiskey in the other.

YOU really can quit smoking.

It's a terrible thing to watch someone die of lung cancer. I have seen it all. Some people with
lung cancer drown in their own black fluid, a slow death. Some spew pieces of their lungs. Some
spew black blood. I am not talking about a few drops of blood. I am talking about coffee ground
blood that gushes from the mouth like a projector.....covers the hospital walls, bed, everything.
It's a really really really really horrible way to die.

We all will die but you do not want to die like that.

You have to take it one day at a time. Don't think about tomorrow. Just throw the cigarettes
away and say I will NOT smoke today. No matter what, I will NOT smoke today. Then when
tomorrow comes, say it again..... I will NOT smoke today. The patch is the best thing to use
because it will help wean you from the nicotine and the urge to smoke is reduced. But don't
think about tomorrow or the next week or the next month. I will NOT smoke today and go
to youtube and look at the lung cancer videos.

Valerie ...I smoke 20-25 a day
I did try patches few time and every time I did I increased number from around 20 to over 30 a day , it is crap for me

Now over last 5 years over 30 people i know stopped smoking , nice , maybe , only problem now is they are all now drug addict

good idea is too look charts around the world , number of smokers V number of drug addict in 5 or 10 years

Aside from your very harrowing description valerie, I think the one thing that has stuck most in my mind was a doctor on the radio I heard earlier this year talking about visiting a cancer ward when she was studying and deciding what she was going to specialise in.

The doctor described a ward full of smokers with "fish-eye" - lying in bed motionless with their eyes wide open like they were in a state of constant terror (probably were), and their mouths silently opening and closing as they gasped vainly for air & failed to get enough into their clogged lungs. They were in a state of constant suffocation.

I also remember the video recorded by Yul Brynner (The King and I, The Magnificent Seven) & released after he died from smoking in 1985. His words were something like "Don't smoke - just don't smoke". I wish I had heeded his advice all of those years ago.

Or we can look at Fidel Castro , yuk he smoked so much and poor Castro is now dead , only 90 years young , tobacco killed him

@Charez: Scaferlati caporal? LOL it sounds great I'll have to check Google

@all: all those memories made me feel quite an oldie I remember smoking inside the cinema while watching black and white vampire movies with Christopher Lee as Count Dracula

Stopping with smoking is a state of mind,your either strong or weak.

it's all between the ears

Marcel-R6 wrote: Stopping with smoking is a state of mind,your either strong or weak.

it's all between the ears

Yeah, and no.

Yes, it's all between the ears. No, it's not about strength.

It's about honesty. Smokers have spent so many years lying to themselves, justifying the next cigarette, and playing down the downsides, that they've started to believe their own narrative. It's not about being strong, it's about being honest with yourself. It's an important distinction, because it really is the key to quitting. I went from chain smoking to nothing overnight. All it took was being honest with myself.

BouldRake wrote:

Marcel-R6 wrote: Stopping with smoking is a state of mind,your either strong or weak.

it's all between the ears

Yeah, and no.

Yes, it's all between the ears. No, it's not about strength.

It's about honesty. Smokers have spent so many years lying to themselves, justifying the next cigarette, and playing down the downsides, that they've started to believe their own narrative. It's not about being strong, it's about being honest with yourself. It's an important distinction, because it really is the key to quitting. I went from chain smoking to nothing overnight. All it took was being honest with myself.

Well you stated it better then me,in your mind you really have to want to quit.

People make all kinds of excuses for not quitting. When they finally become honest with theirselves,
as BouldRake pointed out, they will stop smoking.

My excuses to continue smoking were like most cigarette smokers excuses. The big excuse was
'well ya gonna die of something so it might as well be lung cancer' and another one is 'well my
great great great great grandpa smoke all his life and lived to be 196'. Oh here is another great
one that women usually like to use 'if I quit smoking I will get fat'.

The real facts are, people that use tobacco, are very highly going to die from it. They are going
to cut their lives shorter. They will die a most uncomfortable death. They do spread second hand
smoke. Many do suffer for years before they die.....yes, I said YEARS and it is often called COPD.
Many will be on OXYGEN. Many will be FORCED to quit in order to use their oxygen. Many will
drag an oxygen tank around with them. Many will never leave their house because the oxygen
tanks are cumbersome. Many will need to have fluid drained from their body, some times on a
regular basis. Many will suffer from a large number of OTHER health issues, skin problems,
pneumonia, flue's, carcinoma's, and more. People that smoke, do die from other complications
before they die of the actual cancer. People that smoke, can die and many do die, at a very
early age. When you smoke, at some point you will begin to cough and gurgle. You'll hack.
You'll be lucky if you can carry on a conversation with anyone without hacking or coughing.
When you lay down to sleep, you will sound like someone attempting to gargle listening for the
first time. You will wheeze and gurgle. Eventually you will cough up what will look to be greenish
black snot....it will become worse. You will have so much of it that you'll need to carry a pack
of paper towels with you around the house or worse.....the ultimate worse.....a coke can or
some other type of can to spit the foul contents of your black lungs.

If you smoke cigarettes in your house, your house and most everything in it, smells and turns
yellowish orange. No matter how much you clean, since you consistently smoke, your house
becomes consistently smoked in like a ham that has been hanging in a smoke house for years.
Your clothes turn orange. In fact, many clothes you will wash but they will still smell like
smoke. Everyone that goes around you, won't want to embarrass you so they say nothing
but they are glad when they leave your presence because fresh tobacco smells so good but
used tobacco smells like stinking puke and you will smell like a walking talking stinking puke
stick.

When you stop smoking, you will feel renewed. You will kick yourself for not quitting sooner.
You'll wish you had all the money back that you spent on cigarettes all those years. Your
house will smell like a summer breeze. People will actually smell your cologne on you for the
first time ever. Your skin will brighten. You'll look younger. Your hair will soften. You might
even find your hair thickens. You'll feel more toned. Old bones, aches, pains, arthritis, seems
more dull. You'll actually smell things, things you thought you could smell but you really didnt
until now. You'll taste all the flavors in your foods. You won't feel so tired. You'll be able
to walk longer and faster. Your endurance is greater. Your eyes are brighter. Your brain
functions easier and faster. You'll feel 100% better than you have felt since you were a kid.
And then............

You see someone smoking, you know what they are doing to themselves.

STOP making excuses and QUIT!

The good news is that phillip morris will stop producing cigarettes so maybe other companies will follow the trend.
Going cold turkey is really the best when quitting smoking.
You'll need an iron will and something to distract you, forget about nicotine patches ect..., stay away from nicotine all together.

Been trying to quit 20 years now,nothing works, l lack the will power.Hope you can quit.-

Actually, I am surprised they don't have 'organic' cigarettes. Maybe they do, I don't know but
the though occurred to me just now.

It can't be good to take any foreign material into your lungs.

However, I think a lot of what is bad for your lungs is the process of tobacco and all the
carcinogens that are in it.

Years ago, people smoked cigarettes that probably had tobacco worms in it. Their lungs
were probably healthier in comparison of a smoker today.

valerie wrote:
It can't be good to take any foreign material into your lungs.

That's becoming the major concern with "vaping" - what are all of those flavours when vaporised doing to your lungs, bloodstream & cells?

Food & flavour molecules are supposed to go down your oesophagus into your stomach to be broken down, not down your windpipe into your lungs to be absorbed into your body's cells.

Best just giving up nicotine inhalation altogether & trying to keep the air going into your lungs as clean and pure as possible.

That's the most ironic thing about tasman1's posts. He lives in a spot on the Earth where the air is purer than almost anywhere else on the entire planet, and yet he chooses to deliberately suck the dirtiest & unhealthiest air into his lungs.

I think smoking will be banned in Australia within the next 5 to 10 years. Our smoking rate is already extremely low at around 13% of adults, so a ban would only impact a small minority of the population. And many of those hardcore smokers would probably be relieved to have the decision taken out of their hands & be forced to quit. Might be a few who decide to go down the path of illegal tobacco imports, but that would only be a few as smoking is a difficult activity to keep secret unless you want to remain housebound & have no visitors.