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The age of loneliness is killing us

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#1 by tasman1 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:50

Factories have closed, people travel by car instead of buses, use YouTube rather than the cinema,
social collapse
These structural changes have been accompanied by a life-denying ideology, which enforces and celebrates our social isolation
The war of every man against every man – competition and individualism there is no such thing as society, only heroic individualism. What counts is to win. The rest is collateral damage.
We no longer talk about people. Now we call them individuals.

We have ripped the natural world apart, degraded our conditions of life, surrendered our freedoms and prospects of contentment to a compulsive, atomising, joyless hedonism, in which, having consumed all else, we start to prey upon ourselves. For this, we have destroyed the essence of humanity: our connectedness.

Only few % of people can admit , I am lonely
We hide it , We lie , We are lonely , We are doomed

and yes . We will continue this self destruction

A silent epidemic that's starting to kill us. But we don't want to talk about it. No-one really wants to admit they are lonely.
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#2 by valerie » Sun Dec 25, 2016 13:37

I think whomever wrote that, must be lonely.

Personally, I think the opposite is true.

'Loneliness' is largely a state of mind.
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#3 by realpizza » Sun Dec 25, 2016 13:43

I'm so lonely
I'm Mr. Lonely
I have nobody
To call my own

- Akon
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#4 by tasman1 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 13:55

valerie wrote: I think whomever wrote that, must be lonely.

Personally, I think the opposite is true.

'Loneliness' is largely a state of mind.



Can not agree Valerie
Communication:We have we lost the art of conversation
Community spirit has disappeared
It is ,Me world, good for few , bad for most
Classic.. living in city of 10 million and can not find a partner or friend
No I can not agree with your view, We are alone and lost, most of us
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#5 by pindokhan123 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 13:58

loneliness is a sad condition to be in,there are many out there,through no fault of their own are living a miserable life,rejected by family,no job,illness of some sort,mental disorder etc etc

the ideal environment for all people starts from their family,the family values,what it means to be united should continue throughout life,,when it is cut off then life changes for all.

its just like falling in love,so easy to do so yet so hard to keep and be bound to,its needs trust,understanding and a commitment which us humans struggle with,we are vulnerable bits of walking flesh.

i agree both with pizza and Val,,, some people are pushed away,some are forced to leave,others? well everyone has a story at the end of the day.
as far as society is concerned, if i can remember correctly one of the 3 famous philosophers,Aristotle,Socrates or could have been Plato believed that individuals are conditioned through society,circumstances,the norm of the time that develops their personal traits and as an individual,this i do agree to...............today's society is severely lacking in that connective tissue which long ago bound our forefathers :(
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#6 by tasman1 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 14:14

Last week my car was due for service , returned home with bus , it was full , 25 min to my home , not a single person did tell a single word . all texting . all alone , all sick
That is how I see the world
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#7 by pindokhan123 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 14:23

ironic tho it seems,we can still feel lonely in a crowd :roll:

tasman i agree, today its all phones and eyes down
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#8 by tasman1 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 14:36

Can We name 5 neighbours on left , 5 on right and 5 across the street
How many times per week we talk with them
How many time per week we visit them or they visit us
Or maybe it is bad to ask this , maybe better we hide all this , maybe better we forget about this
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#9 by pindokhan123 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 14:51

tasman,how much red wine you drunk today? maybe 5 bottles of strong red wine,i can smell you from here :D

looks like you going to get me depressed as well on xmas day with all this loneliness chat,,,,,,,,,,,,,,right now i am in my bedroom,on my bed with my lap,i don't have anyone here,just the clixsense forum to chat with,,i don't feel lonely but little sad coz i left my hubby back home and i travelled :(
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#10 by tasman1 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 15:02

My dear pindokhan123,,,, with my lap ,,, = lonely, just we can NOT admit it , that is what I told in this topic
it is hard for most people to admit it , to hide is better , or is it ?
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#11 by pindokhan123 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 15:12

:silent:
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#12 by valerie » Sun Dec 25, 2016 17:07

I guess it depends on your definition of loneliness.

It seems there are people that think they need to be surrounded by people.
As someone said, people can be in a crowd and yet be lonely.
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#13 by lotoole » Sun Dec 25, 2016 18:29

The cure to loneliness is reaching out to others instead of waiting for them to reach out to you. I took Christmas cookies over to an elderly neighbor and we sat down and talked for a couple of hours. It was fun. I learned the last time she had been thrown from a horse was at the age of 85 and she didn't break anything. Pretty tough lady.

I do notice more people with their heads buried in their phones texting, even among family members. It's a weird feeling when you haven't seen someone for about a year, and they're sitting with their phone texting instead of talking with you and catching up on the news. I suggest we grab those smart phones and toss them out the window.
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#14 by tasman1 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 18:34

lotoole wrote: The cure to loneliness is reaching out to others instead of waiting for them to reach out to you. I took Christmas cookies over to an elderly neighbor and we sat down and talked for a couple of hours. It was fun. I learned the last time she had been thrown from a horse was at the age of 85 and she didn't break anything. Pretty tough lady.

I do notice more people with their heads buried in their phones texting, even among family members. It's a weird feeling when you haven't seen someone for about a year, and they're sitting with their phone texting instead of talking with you and catching up on the news. I suggest we grab those smart phones and toss them out the window.



Very nice post and I agree with you 100%, sad world
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#15 by tasman1 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 19:00

The Last Bastion Has Fallen…

Young pair naked in bed on hot summer night

women texting...darling I love You
man texting .....love you to
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#16 by valerie » Sun Dec 25, 2016 21:09

I still think that people do what they want to do, in regards to loneliness.

In other words, I think there is more ways to NOT be lonely today than ever before in history.

I look at sites like Facebook and think how great that would have been to have when I was in
school. All the kids I grew up with, how we could have stayed in contact so easily. Now I can't
locate hardly any of them.

A really sad story is a girl that was a best friend in school and I located her younger brother on
Facebook a few years ago. Right over in Memphis, just an hour drive from me. I was so thrilled.
I contacted him at Facebook, told him who I was, told him I had been looking for Debbie and how
is she, etc. He replied that she had died a couple of years ago. We grew up by Chicago but she
was originally from Memphis. I couldn't help but think how near we lived to each other and the
times I went to the Malls in Memphis.

The internet brings a lot of people together. The days are gone when one had to wait a week to
get a letter from a loved one or a friend. Now people can see each other over the internet.

We didn't have video camera's or even a good camera when I married and had children. Today,
people take hundreds of pictures in a week of their children, family, friends, etc. No more waiting
for pictures to be developed. Although there were video camera's when I married, few people
had them and most were expensive and weighed a ton. Now people can take videos with their
iPhones, smart phones, tablets, etc.

There is more things to do today, than ever before. More museums, more amusement parks,
more theaters, etc. Even if you're like me, living in a rural area, it doesn't take long to go where
the action is. In addition, there are more church's, volunteer organizations, community activities, etc.

I have a Bachelors of Science degree in Rehabilitation. There are more resources and activities today
than ever before for those with disabilities and more legal rights than ever before. The Americans
with Disabilities Act is a large part of making sure businesses make accommodations for the disabled.
There is 100% more acceptance today of people with disabilities. Everything from Downs Syndrome,
Autism, etc. In addition, those without limbs have more opportunity today than ever before. Those
with mental handicaps also have more activities and socialization.

For the single people, whatever their age, looking for marriage, the internet has some dating sites
that appear to be very good at match making. I know several people that have met their mate online
and are happy as a lark.

I know it isn't the case for everyone but I really do believe that most the people out there that say
they are lonely, it is because they choose to be. I think people get in a rut some times. I know I
have before. You can get lazy in your relationships and your lack thereof. I don't mean that just
a partnership type way as I mean that also with family, friends, or potential friends.

I think the bad often overshadows the good. It is a different world but you know what, it has always
been a different world. If you are 20 years old, guess what? It's going to be a different world when
you are 25, 30, 40, 50, 60, etc. The world is always changing.
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#17 by tasman1 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 21:47

Valerie wrote ..in other words, I think there is more ways to NOT be lonely today than ever before in history.
give you 10/10 for that , I agree

Still , We are just humans and We make mistakes . here is my list top 4, what is bad for humans

To much freedom .....once we have it we we go to far and forget what real freedom is
To much democracy .....We are all different and We all start asking for ...our kind of democracy
to much technologies .....We go to far , we never stop and it will destroy us at the end
to much wealth .....just give me more , not working


As you say We have MORE CHOICES today and that creates less choices [most people today think that is only choice we have ] and more lonely people, good for few , bad for the rest
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#18 by msblahms » Sun Dec 25, 2016 22:04

you should change the topic title to "The age of loneliness is killing me" ;)
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#19 by tasman1 » Sun Dec 25, 2016 22:54

msblahms wrote: you should change the topic title to "The age of loneliness is killing me" ;)



My dear friend ... I still have not that problem , I am old fashioned person with real family and friends and one who hate ...modern world . One example , I have mobile phone that I never use . Have a plan 30.00 per month and used it only 2 times in 2016 , cost around 5 buck , rest of the money on mobile is just waste . Why I do have a mobile ? Just in the case my kids must contact me
Friends ? I go to them if i like to talk or see them

This topic is about world wide problems in modern world , not my or yours problem , just to ask you,,, who will give you a glass of drink once you can not use yourself , who will hold your hand once you start dying ??????
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#20 by msblahms » Sun Dec 25, 2016 23:52

tasman1 wrote:
msblahms wrote: you should change the topic title to "The age of loneliness is killing me" ;)



, just to ask you,,, who will give you a glass of drink once you can not use yourself , who will hold your hand once you start dying ??????

i guess if i cant use myself i wont be desiring a glass of wine nor do i care about someone holding my hand, for me i agree with valerie its just a state of mind its up to you how you look at things that is why i never felt lonely to the contrary i desire to be left alone most of the times
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