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#1 by rajukurup » Sat Apr 01, 2017 22:22

The next generation is expected to be a robotic age .robots doing most activities that human beings perform now like serving food washing clothes , going to the market driving car and many others. is it really a boon to humanity never it will increase the comforts and make people lazy and good for nothing . our ancestors were very active and they lead a healthy life. being active removes all poisonous wastes from our body making it healthy while being sedative enhances the poisons making the body good for nothing .intelligence was the main tool of our ancestors for success with robots taking advantage that trait will be completely vanished and then what is the reality of life according to my view robots are a curse to humanity
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#2 by dutch1898 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 22:39

At my age of 81 I am not going to worry to much about the robots taking over. :clap: :thumbup:
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#3 by tasman1 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 22:49

dutch1898 wrote: At my age of 81 I am not going to worry to much about the robots taking over. :clap: :thumbup:



At just 81 , you have another 100 to live
What are you going to do for next 100 years once robots take over
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#4 by seaeagle » Sat Apr 01, 2017 22:54

I think robots are great. They certainly improve life for disabled people like me.

Change & technical advancement will always cause some disruption in society, but how that is dealt with is up to us & the people we choose to be our leaders. If they & we accept the future & prepare for it, we will do well. If we fight it, we won't prosper.

There was outrage & concern that unemployment would take over &/or prosperity would end when slavery was abolished, when children were prevented from working in mines, when weaving machines were introduced to England (the birth of the Luddites movement), when mechanical harvesting came to farms, when robotics was brought into automobile factories etc etc etc. Yet, the doomsday predictors were proven wrong time & time again. Instead of society falling apart, life got better, especially for those on the lower rungs of society. Instead of working in the fields, children had free time to go to school. Adults had leisure time, instead of working from dawn until dusk for a pittance every day. People could develop, and invent, and discover.

Regarding our bodies & activities, do we really need to lumber around in heavy suits of meat? The main purpose of our body is to carry our brain around & reproduce. We may be on the evolutionary path to a stage where we won't need our bodies and all of the problems that come with them. After all, who we are is contained in our brains. You could hook a human brain up to a computer that simulates the human body with all of its senses, place it in a virtual reality world with other brains also hooked up, and it would believe that it is a complete person living a complete life. It could converse, make decisions, travel, have a career, even have sex. That could be our future. It could even be where we are right now - how could we know?
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#5 by tasman1 » Sat Apr 01, 2017 22:59

seaeagle wrote: I think robots are great. They certainly improve life for disabled people like me.

Change & technical advancement will always cause some disruption in society, but how that is dealt with is up to us & the people we choose to be our leaders. If they & we accept the future & prepare for it, we will do well. If we fight it, we won't prosper.

There was outrage & concern that unemployment would take over &/or prosperity would end when slavery was abolished, when children were prevented from working in mines, when weaving machines were introduced to England (the birth of the Luddites movement), when mechanical harvesting came to farms, when robotics was brought into automobile factories etc etc etc. Yet, the doomsday predictors were proven wrong time & time again. Instead of society falling apart, life got better, especially for those on the lower rungs of society. Instead of working in the fields, children had free time to go to school. Adults had leisure time, instead of working from dawn until dusk for a pittance every day. People could develop, and invent, and discover.

Regarding our bodies & activities, do we really need to lumber around in heavy suits of meat? After all, our bodies are just there to carry our brains around & reproduce. We may be on the evolutionary path to a stage where we won't need our bodies and all of the problems that come with them. After all, who we are is contained in our brains. You could hook a human brain up to a computer that simulates the human body with all of its senses, place it in a virtual reality world with other brains also hooked up, and it would believe that it is a complete person living a complete life. It could converse, make decisions, travel, have a career, even have sex. That could be our future. It could even be where we are right now - how could we know?



Yep , our future is..........brain in bottle.... and add alcohol or it will go waste

PS...will not like my brain to have sex with another brain
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#6 by Akshi2497 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 01:25

rajukurup wrote: The next generation is expected to be a robotic age .robots doing most activities that human beings perform now like serving food washing clothes , going to the market driving car and many others. is it really a boon to humanity never it will increase the comforts and make people lazy and good for nothing . our ancestors were very active and they lead a healthy life. being active removes all poisonous wastes from our body making it healthy while being sedative enhances the poisons making the body good for nothing .intelligence was the main tool of our ancestors for success with robots taking advantage that trait will be completely vanished and then what is the reality of life according to my view robots are a curse to humanity




you said very right....... :roll: :roll: :geek: :geek:
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#7 by BouldRake » Sun Apr 02, 2017 01:31

Quote:There was outrage & concern that unemployment would take over &/or prosperity would end when slavery was abolished, when children were prevented from working in mines, when weaving machines were introduced to England (the birth of the Luddites movement), when mechanical harvesting came to farms, when robotics was brought into automobile factories etc etc etc. Yet, the doomsday predictors were proven wrong time & time again.

Except they weren't, were they.

The towns built around cotton mills still languish in poverty today.

The towns built around mines still languish in poverty today.

The towns built around steel works still languish in poverty today.

The towns built around car factories still languish in poverty today.

The towns built around fishing still languish in poverty today.

The towns built around farms are a little different - they don't languish in poverty, they've become elitist areas, only the rich land owners can ever aspire to living near.

All as a direct result of technology replacing jobs.
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#8 by seaeagle » Sun Apr 02, 2017 02:54

They're not languishing in poverty purely because of robotics. They are languishing because they got caught in the trap of relying on one type of industry, and when circumstances changed, they weren't able to.

Plus the good times often lead to excessive expenditure & unsustainable wage growth which comes back to bite when things slow down (as they will inevitably do). The same has happened to our steel & mining towns, and everyone saw it coming, but no-one was prepared to seriously put up the money to move or start-up new hi-tech industries in those regions (along with all the support services to ensure they do not fail while they are still building up their market).

In the modern age there should be no such thing as a steel town or a mining town or a motor city. That is just putting all of your eggs in the one basket. And not being prepared to meet new tech with new tech will just result in the old tech falling behind, as happened to Nokia & Kodak over the past couple of decades. Kodak invented the digital camera, but left it on the shelf as they thought it might impact their film business. But that did not stop other companies from producing digital cameras, and Kodak went bankrupt. Nokia had the biggest-selling mobile phones on Earth. Someone suggested they develop a smartphone. Nope - who would want the Internet on a phone? Then the iPhone came out, and Nokia's epitaph as the biggest phone manufacturer in the world was written.

Adaptation is the key to survival. It always has been with the human race.
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#9 by tasman1 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 03:19

Robots takes over , still 10-20% of all people will have job , robots still can not do all kind of job

High skilled folks will still have job

Problem , most people in the world are not skilled , poor education etc

How will they survive ?

Rich will never accept to give poor free money

My opinion , in next 20-30 years planet will have 9-10 billion people

7-8 billion will perish from this world from hunger . population will go back to 1 billion

Do not think rich are good people , rich give 1 dollar only if they can have 10 back ,,, example Bill Gates makes on avg 6-7 dollar from every dollar he give to charity

World is doomed , be rich , educated or vanish forever , end is near for most
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#10 by BouldRake » Sun Apr 02, 2017 03:26

seaeagle wrote: They're not languishing in poverty purely because of robotics. They are languishing because they got caught in the trap of relying on one type of industry, and when circumstances changed, they weren't able to.

You're right. I don't dispute this - but there's no reason to suspect anything will happen differently this time.

Quote:In the modern age there should be no such thing as a steel town or a mining town or a motor city. That is just putting all of your eggs in the one basket. And not being prepared to meet new tech with new tech will just result in the old tech falling behind

Again, I completely agree - but that's not the reality on the ground, and this technology is coming faster than the ability to adapt to it.

Quote:Adaptation is the key to survival. It always has been with the human race.

Also agree...but natural selection works by non-random death. It ain't pretty.



Technology isn't the problem, people are. It's not so much is the robotic age a boon or a curse, it's will humans screw this up - and they will.
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#11 by hyldig » Sun Apr 02, 2017 03:35

My brain in a bottle or Doomsday alla Terminator ? I sure hope not . But I would love to get 1 of the robotic Exoskeleton suits when I get old enoung to have trouble moving around myself instead of having to ring thee bell and hope the caretaker shows up inside the first hour . I have also heard no complaints replacing lost bodyparts with robotic arms and legs etc . I would not like the car to drive itself though since those cars have already been proven to cause accidents from time to time .
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#12 by seaeagle » Sun Apr 02, 2017 04:20

BouldRake wrote:
Technology isn't the problem, people are. It's not so much is the robotic age a boon or a curse, it's will humans screw this up - and they will.
Yep. I remember watching the remake of The Day The Earth Stood Still a few years ago & the line from John Cleese (playing the professor) about the human race's habit of waiting until a situation becomes catastrophic before doing something to fix it really stuck with me.

Maybe our innate optimism that things will turn out okay in the end also causes the procrastination that allows things to go pear-shaped through inaction.
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#13 by hyldig » Sun Apr 02, 2017 04:31

Tasman . What would the result be if Brain and Brain multiply ? Brainiacs ? If so you might have a good idea worth testing . :lol:
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#14 by tasman1 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 04:36

hyldig wrote: Tasman . What would the result be if Brain and Brain multiply ? Brainiacs ? If so you might have a good idea worth testing . :lol:


Have one brain and that is to much for me , what I will do with 2 ??? Sell one , but who will buy my brainless brain
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#15 by rajukurup » Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:25

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seaeagle wrote: I think robots are great. They certainly improve life for disabled people like me.
yes I agree to your statement that robots are a boon to disabled people but why should a healthy person adopt a robot working with ones own intelligence and health is unbeatable
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#16 by sweetpie3000 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 13:19

Human have no choice to marry robot to survive. Human stay at home play video games. Robot are doing all the work and paying the bills.
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#17 by pindokhan123 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 13:30

i think robots should do all the work we detest,like clean the toilets, :D ,tell us off if we do wrong, keep discipline in the home etc etc or where we fail as humans a sensible pre-programmed robot can actually improve our lives.
well this is my opinion,thing is i am trying to give up cigarettes and its so damn hard,will power,whats that?

everytime i put a fag in me gob the robot will pull it out,spank me and threaten me that if i do it again i will be put outside all night :shock:
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#18 by Zimzane » Sun Apr 02, 2017 13:38

I still believe that no robots will ever be able to feel emotions
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#19 by dutch1898 » Sun Apr 02, 2017 13:40

Play table tennis and let the robotics do the housework and gardening. :lol:
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#20 by pindokhan123 » Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:47

true robots will never have feelings coz they come from your soul ;)
but then again keep sum1 for the emotional bit and sumthing else for those deep n' hard chores :D ,a man for every trade,come rain or shine :D
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