Today is world health day. is the world really healthy?.not at all. compared to about 3-4 centuries back now the world is very unhealthy. wealth and comfort have increased to large extent in most countries but people neglect their health. activity has decreased so much as machines took its place people are interested in tasty and junk foods and eat much without considering their body also mental tension and stress is more than that in the past all are interested in gaining wealth and in material possessions .Let that world come back where all are healthy and free from all sorts of lifestyle ailments that is what we can expect on this health day

People were healthier 400 years ago? I think you are looking at the past through rose-colored spectacles.

What about smallpox, the plague, leprosy, typhoid, tuberculosis, syphilis, scurvy, polio, tetanus, diphtheria, measles and the chance of dying from any minor cut due to no antibiotics?

Nutrition was not that good back then either, with rotting food & shortages much of the time. Plus most nutritious foods are seasonal, so long periods without adequate doses of vitamins also took their toll.

Most people today are very healthy, and very unfit.

400 years ago, people were probably fitter, but much less healthy.

I'm very fit and very unhealthy. I was born at the wrong time...though I'd prefer to have been around in the mid to late 800AD's to 1600's.

Yeah, people are healthier today and they do live longer in general then in years past.

They did not have Trade way back then. Even when Trade started by ships, much of the food was rotten
or tainted by rats by the time it got where it was going.

Using the States as an example, Florida may have fruits such as oranges but New York did not have oranges.
So before there was Trade or Shipments of any kind, people were destined to eat only what they could harvest
in their area.

I believe this is also why 'meat' became a large source of food. If you lived in cold climates about the
only source of food you had was 'meat' and/or 'fish'.

People did not have a balance of vitamins and nutritions to prevent or fight off diseases and sickness.

Of course, medicine/doctors were not about much back in the dark ages, either.

seaeagle wrote: People were healthier 400 years ago? I think you are looking at the past through rose-colored spectacles.

What about smallpox, the plague, leprosy, typhoid, tuberculosis, syphilis, scurvy, polio, tetanus, diphtheria, measles and the chance of dying from any minor cut due to no antibiotics?

Nutrition was not that good back then either, with rotting food & shortages much of the time. Plus most nutritious foods are seasonal, so long periods without adequate doses of vitamins also took their toll.

seaeagle you are considering only the diseases caused by germs that is natural.as per Darwins theory survival of the fittest but people in those time were hard working and free from lifestyle ailments like diabetes, cancer the most dreaded aids,,heart and kidneyfailure at young age, hypertension, and many others as they were wise and knew the importance of activity .Today life span extends only because of medical facilities had it been not there life span would be 40 years.the concentration of germs is more than that in the past toda;y there is no doubt about it we are fit externally but actually unhealthy in the absence of medicines that is the truth

Not true.

All that you mentioned has always existed. Cancer, Diabetes, etc. It's always existed.

valerie wrote: Not true.

All that you mentioned has always existed. Cancer, Diabetes, etc. It's always existed.

it is true that these diseases existed I meant that the number was comparatively less than that of today .in old times these diseases were rare but now these diseases are spreading like fire if we take a particular family any where in the world at least one would have it which is an impact of modernization

rajukurup wrote: compared to about 3-4 centuries back now the world is very unhealthy.

Health consists mainly of 2 aspects: Physical and Mental.

If you mean it's the former, then without doubt physical health have improved a lot over the time span you've mentioned.

Mortality rates have declined. Average life expectancy have shot up, thanks to superlative advancements in medicine. People are more physically sound now.

If you refer to the latter, then however it poses a different picture. Mental health has gradually deteriorated since the ages and consistently so. And it includes the emotional, social and spiritual aspects as well.

People were ailing yet more sane in those times.
Depression is a disease of modern era.

rajukurup wrote:

valerie wrote: Not true.

All that you mentioned has always existed. Cancer, Diabetes, etc. It's always existed.

it is true that these diseases existed I meant that the number was comparatively less than that of today .in old times these diseases were rare but now these diseases are spreading like fire if we take a particular family any where in the world at least one would have it which is an impact of modernization

No they were not rare. They were very rampant.

In addition, much research has been done in cancer and many lives have been saved today
due to new research and meds.

It has also been stated and many researchers agree, that cancer is mostly hereditary.

even though diseases and illnesses have been with us throughout time,its only recent that with medical research and technology we have been able to discover,treat and possibly cure them.
in the olden days many ppl died coz of no proper medical care,but in this day and age so many diseases and illnesses have been treated so people basically are living longer.

however i have watched a few documentaries on discovery,as you normally do ,in some remote parts of the world there are civilizations that have no access to modern tech nor medicine,they have for thousands of years been relying on natural stuff that they hunt and gather or find in the forests where they live and many of those people do live long and healthy lives.

it doesn't necessarily mean if you eat healthily you will live longer,you could be the victim of any disease or cancer,it can hit anyone,no matter what colour,creed,age or sex you are.
at the end of the day we are humans and vulnerable to anything and everything out there no matter what kind of precautions we take.

Actually, it's mostly about genetics and mutations along with the human susceptibility to any particular
disease.

You and I could live in the exact same environment, today or any time in history. We could eat the
same foods, live in the same house, do everything exactly the same. One of us might get lung cancer
and the other not, even though neither of us ever smoked and was never exposed to smoke.

Frankenstein, was more on target.

In other words, Science has focused on curing and obliterating disease and they have did a good
job of it in some aspects. However, they have not focused, until recently, the study of genetics
and DNA susceptibility along with the inability to change mutations on the strands.

Now that we know most of what happens to us (disease wise) is based on our DNA and susceptibility,
we have to discover how we can change our own DNA.

THAT is exactly where the CONFLICT comes in.

since the aliens come on earth for invasion, they are some that mixed with humans to help the the reptilian aliens control Earth. that's what cause mutation

charez wrote: since the aliens come on earth for invasion, they are some that mixed with humans to help the the reptilian aliens control Earth. that's what cause mutation

Great spoil our complete cover,I've told you many times no drinking while being on the job.

valerie wrote: Actually, it's mostly about genetics and mutations along with the human susceptibility to any particular
disease.

You and I could live in the exact same environment, today or any time in history. We could eat the
same foods, live in the same house, do everything exactly the same. One of us might get lung cancer
and the other not, even though neither of us ever smoked and was never exposed to smoke.

Frankenstein, was more on target.

In other words, Science has focused on curing and obliterating disease and they have did a good
job of it in some aspects. However, they have not focused, until recently, the study of genetics
and DNA susceptibility along with the inability to change mutations on the strands.

Now that we know most of what happens to us (disease wise) is based on our DNA and susceptibility,
we have to discover how we can change our own DNA.

THAT is exactly where the CONFLICT comes in.

exactly,thats what it all boils down to,as us individuals and our immunity to the crap around us

My oldest daughter had breast cancer at a very early age, early 20's.

She had a mastectomy at Vanderbilt hospital in Nashville, Tennessee.

Since she was so young, they wanted to study/research her, so to speak.

What they discovered was she had two recessive genes on a particular strand. I don't recall
all the terminology. They said was common for people to have one recessive gene on that
strand but far less common to have two. She received one of the recessive genes from her
father and one from her mother, me. There was a lot more but this was a major thing they
looked at as a potential.

So now ask me the question. If I could have obliterated that recessive gene from my dna,
would I have done it? My answer would of course be YES.

It's always easy for someone not in the pool of things to say nay but when it hits home, the
answer often changes to yay.

seaeagle wrote: People were healthier 400 years ago? I think you are looking at the past through rose-colored spectacles.

What about smallpox, the plague, leprosy, typhoid, tuberculosis, syphilis, scurvy, polio, tetanus, diphtheria, measles and the chance of dying from any minor cut due to no antibiotics?

Nutrition was not that good back then either, with rotting food & shortages much of the time. Plus most nutritious foods are seasonal, so long periods without adequate doses of vitamins also took their toll.

Nice collection of cute bugs

poiuy123 wrote: Mental health has gradually deteriorated since the ages and consistently so. And it includes the emotional, social and spiritual aspects as well.

Haven't you ever heard of Bedlam? Mental illness has been around forever. The difference is, in the olden days (what some here think of as the golden days), sufferers died when young after being abandoned by family, or died as street beggars, or were burnt as witches, or killed during exorcisms, or lynched by locals, or just sent to insane asylums where they would die in abject poverty and misery.

Regarding depression being a modern illness, I assume you did not study Shakespeare's Hamlet in school?

Just because medicine or society of the time did not recognise or record certain types of illnesses does not mean that those illnesses did not exist back then.

rajukurup wrote: Today is world health day. is the world really healthy?.not at all. compared to about 3-4 centuries back now the world is very unhealthy. wealth and comfort have increased to large extent in most countries but people neglect their health. activity has decreased so much as machines took its place people are interested in tasty and junk foods and eat much without considering their body also mental tension and stress is more than that in the past all are interested in gaining wealth and in material possessions .Let that world come back where all are healthy and free from all sorts of lifestyle ailments that is what we can expect on this health day

My short translation what she did try to tell us


Remove Medical progress and We find that people today have not healthy lifestyle , bad junk food , stress etc
If We do not take 1 kg of medication daily We will not last long as people 400 years ago

Marcel-R6 wrote:

charez wrote: since the aliens come on earth for invasion, they are some that mixed with humans to help the the reptilian aliens control Earth. that's what cause mutation

Great spoil our complete cover,I've told you many times no drinking while being on the job.

Charez and Marcel are Anunnaki, reptilian race from Niburu planet
Beware folks , invasion is close

seaeagle wrote: Mental illness has been around forever.
Just because medicine or society of the time did not recognise or record certain types of illnesses does not mean that those illnesses did not exist back then.

I'd only say this that mental ailment is an umbrella term that covers all the related illnesses. I specifically stated about Depression. Which IMO is the 'gift' of modern times.

The illness earlier prevalent was melancholia which is markedly different but also can be said as the seed of today's depression (which some psychologists believe is not a disease itself but rather a symptoms of underlying situations that trigger it).

There are exceptions ofc, but that only proves the rule or the trend in this case.

And as to why depression is a contemporary ailment is that it's more a social problem than it's a private matter - which melancholia is. It's a socio-economic phenomenon.
People knew how to be happy in those times despite their ordinary living style Today we have everything except true happiness.

We're disconnected too.
The more the population has increased, the more lonelier we have become. Like isolated deserted islands floating amidst the vast ocean. Perfect breeding grounds of depression.
Actually to day we have enough time to get depressed. In those times when you were scrambling & struggling to survive there were no time for depression.

As for Shakespeare, I read Hamlet (& his other works) much later in my University days. In the school we had the "The Merchant of Venice" included in our syllabus.
I would recommend to read (or better still see the play staged if possible in a theatre) "King Lear" , which is the best of his Shakespearean tragedies, IMO.