hyldig wrote: Here in the country it has often been discussed to make marijuana legal on perscription to the terminally ill . The funny thing just is opiums flower ( beautiful plante ) and cannabis seeds are legal to sell , they are just not legal to grow .

Reminds me about my silly country ,all stupid discussions and our goverment doesn't know jack about it.
With their argument but if we make it legal the export of it will rise ( Where do you think most of it goes now?? )

BouldRake wrote: See this paper.

Essentially, you need a chain reaction. One type of antioxidant donates an electron to a free radical, and that makes the free radical less reactive.

The antioxidant is now reactive itself, and needs a donated electron from another antioxidant, and so on, each time becoming less reactive.

But if you get a whole bunch of the same antioxidant from a supplement or a "super food", this doesn't happen - so the antioxidants themselves become reactive, which is the exact opposite reason people take them.

But worse, free radicals send a "signal" to a cell to create it's own antioxidants...and if you're swarming with too many you've got from elsewhere, this never happens. Your body doesn't produce it's own antioxidants, which both prevents this same reaction happening, and also negates any benefit of exercise.

Or in a nutshell, the body is complicated - you need to get the balances right, you can't just throw stuff at it and hope it gets enough of everything.

Thanks, it does make sense to me, I don't take and I don't like any supplements but eating all different kind of fruits and veggies (a lot) daily shouldn't hurt right?

No, you'll be fine.

My point is that the people most likely to be growing all their own food and experimenting with this sort of thing tend to be the new age hippy end of the Green party who also jump on all the latest health trends. Organic is magically better, even when it isn't, and you should eat as many antioxidants as you should, etc. As part of the new age hippy end of the Green party myself, I'd also point out it's a generalisation.

If you're not thinking about your antioxidants, you're fine. You've got plenty of wiggle room. On the other hand, if you're deliberately taking supplements, and already trying to maximise them in your diet, then the changes hydroponics can bring to any given plant could well be the straw that breaks the camels back.

i dont mind being a trendy modern day hippy but i do love the simple and uncomplicated way of living..

to live off the grid would be a dream for me really coupled with some tech

solar panels for my electricity,,own food,animals,river close by for fish.....hmm what else?
well i guess there will be plenty to do when the time comes....

in this day and age people are too dependant on technology ,supermarkets etc,,im not saying its bad,,i have been there and still do buy my groceries and bits n' bobs from local shops but keeping it to a minimum is the key here.

i love risks,i love challenges and i love adventure...im half way there i guess in another country

BouldRake wrote: No, you'll be fine.

My point is that the people most likely to be growing all their own food and experimenting with this sort of thing tend to be the new age hippy end of the Green party who also jump on all the latest health trends. Organic is magically better, even when it isn't, and you should eat as many antioxidants as you should, etc. As part of the new age hippy end of the Green party myself, I'd also point out it's a generalisation.

If you're not thinking about your antioxidants, you're fine. You've got plenty of wiggle room. On the other hand, if you're deliberately taking supplements, and already trying to maximise them in your diet, then the changes hydroponics can bring to any given plant could well be the straw that breaks the camels back.

Totally agree, i even watching a youtube video right now about the new age movement, what a coincidence! I also don't believe in these superfoods, new trends about health and lifestyle.
I was thinking about growing some lettuces and herbs indoor and the reason why I want to invest in small hydroponic system such as MiracleGro is because i believe at the end it will be much cheaper than buying small bunch of dill and parsley for over £1 each every day, which i can eat in one seating. I'm definitely old-fashioned and don't want to support anything, which can bring us closer to NWO, which is btw inevitable in my opinion but that's another topic...
Anyway, thanks for explaining how antioxidants works, I was not aware that if eaten in excess, they can cause more damage than good...

pindokhan123 wrote: i dont mind being a trendy modern day hippy but i do love the simple and uncomplicated way of living..

to live off the grid would be a dream for me really coupled with some tech

solar panels for my electricity,,own food,animals,river close by for fish.....hmm what else?

This is my ambition in life. I've already tried to crowdfund it twice, and failed both times.

It will happen. One day, it will happen.

I'm already mostly doing it, I just don't have enough land to grow everything and certainly nowhere near enough for a community.

I might never take Jorvik, but I will one day be Jarl of somewhere.