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Now over 1.00, It is sick...tasman1

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#1 by tasman1 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 17:43

Australia , 1 cigarette now over 1.00......that is sick

Did call politicians yesterday and told him all my friends can not afford and did stop smoking

That is nice he told me

But now they all use drugs told him

What is wrong with that he told me [ canabis is now legal here ]

Sick , Sick place is this one [ govt pushing people to use drugs , it will be better money for govt ]



Time for poor to destroy rich and politicians all around the world , nazi crap
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#2 by pipster1234 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 20:40

Drugs were illegal under natzi gov bro
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#3 by tasman1 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 21:32

pipster1234 wrote: Drugs were illegal under natzi gov bro


in short they are better than today elite
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#4 by papamike51 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 22:46

tasman1 wrote: Australia , 1 cigarette now over 1.00......that is sick

Did call politicians yesterday and told him all my friends can not afford and did stop smoking

That is nice he told me

But now they all use drugs told him

What is wrong with that he told me [ canabis is now legal here ]

Sick , Sick place is this one [ govt pushing people to use drugs , it will be better money for govt ]



Time for poor to destroy rich and politicians all around the world , nazi crap

Sorry to tell you this, but smoking is bad for your health. I don't have statistics just anecdotal evidence. I smoked 2 packs a day or more for 40 years. It wasn't until I had breathing problems that I decided to quit. I now have emphysema and COPD. I get out of breath just walking to the can. I don't agree with the government regulating when or where people can smoke, but the cost of lung disease is a big shackle on health care costs, especially in countries that have socialized medicine.

I will say this once, because I'm not preaching.
Do yourself a favour and quit. But don't ever try and quit for someone else. You'll just be bumming smokes from other people or sneaking a smoke when your loved one isn't around. And don't give up. If you try to quit and fail, don't beat yourself up. Just wait a month or so and try again.

I quit 15 years ago, so I know it's possible. That's all I've got to say.

Mike out.
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#5 by pipster1234 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 23:17

Quote: the cost of lung disease is a big shackle on health care costs, especially in countries that have socialized medicine.

the cost of living to age 100 is a bigger drain. the older you live the more you rack up costs.
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#6 by tasman1 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 23:39

Topic was originaly about .......why governments are pushing people from cigarettes to drugs,

punish smokers and legalize drugs at same time [ how much will future governments earn from drugs ?
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#7 by papamike51 » Thu Jun 29, 2017 23:56

tasman1 wrote: Topic was originaly about .......why governments are pushing people from cigarettes to drugs,

punish smokers and legalize drugs at same time [ how much will future governments earn from drugs ?

Sorry Tas, I didn't mean to hijack your post. :)
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#8 by lotoole » Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:26

No need to switch to drugs. That's quite a jump. I recommend wine or beer instead.
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#9 by chrisgl25 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:46

Government don't push you to anything, it is your desition to use or not to use drugs etc...
In my case i don't drink alcohol, don't smoke and don't use drugs, all is my desition
Let's take the responsability for our desitions and stop blaming someone else
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#10 by charmoeren » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:41

in Denmark Price 20 cigarettes = Price between 6,00 and 8,50 USd
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#11 by RoseGold » Fri Jun 30, 2017 13:15

Cigarettes are between $40.00 to $50.00 in USA for a carton of 10 packs :o :$ :$ :$
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#12 by tasman1 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 14:56

chrisgl25 wrote: Government don't push you to anything, it is your desition to use or not to use drugs etc...
In my case i don't drink alcohol, don't smoke and don't use drugs, all is my desition
Let's take the responsability for our desitions and stop blaming someone else


Maybe you live in normal country , but here government made cigs 3 times more costly than drugs and drugs are now legal here

I never used drugs and never will but lost all friends who can not afford cigs and are now using drugs
As a govt say , what is wrong with drugs ? that is sick
number of people here who smoke is gone down huge but use of drugs is sky rocketing

No carton [200 cigarettes] are here under 155.00
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#13 by True-Democracy » Fri Jun 30, 2017 15:48

pipster1234 wrote: Drugs were illegal under natzi gov bro

Just for the record:

Quote:Drug policy and use within the Wehrmacht
Drug use in the German military during World War II was actively encouraged and widespread, especially during the war's later stages as the Wehrmacht became depleted and increasingly dependent on youth as opposed to experience.


Stimulants
In an effort to make its front-line soldiers and fighter pilots fight longer, harder, and with less concern for individual safety, the German army ordered them to take military-issue pills made from methamphetamine and a primarily cocaine-based stimulant. After Pervitin, a methamphetamine drug newly developed by the Berlin-based Temmler pharmaceutical company, first entered the civilian market in 1938, it quickly became a top seller among the German population. The drug was brought to the attention of Otto Friedrich Ranke, a military doctor and director of the Institute for General and Defense Physiology at Berlin's Academy of Military Medicine. The effects of amphetamines are similar to those of the adrenaline produced by the body, triggering a heightened state of alertness. In most people, the substance increases self-confidence, concentration, and willingness to take risks while at the same time reducing sensitivity to pain, hunger, and the need for sleep. In September 1939, Ranke tested the drug on 90 university students and concluded that Pervitin could help the Wehrmacht win the war. Cocaine, whose effects substantially overlap with those of amphetamine but feature greater euphoria, was later added to the formulation to increase its potency through the multiplicative effects of drug interaction and to reinforce its use by individuals.

Medical authorities described this plan, under which the distributed pills numbered in the millions, as having the negative consequence that many soldiers became addicted to drugs and useless in any military capacity, whether combat or supporting.

Aftermath
After the war, Pervitin remained easily accessible, both on the black market and as a prescription drug. Doctors prescribed it to patients as an appetite suppressant or to improve the mood of those struggling with depression. Students, especially medical students, turned to the stimulant to help them cram through the night and finish their studies faster. The drug was removed from the medical supplies of East and West Germany in the 1970s and 1980s respectively, and following German reunification it was deemed illegal in the entire country.
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#14 by True-Democracy » Fri Jun 30, 2017 16:16

@Tas - why not stuff your own cigarettes using a stuffing machine and loose tobacco ? It's cheaper then factory produced cigarettes. Just a thought.
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#15 by tasman1 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 17:00

Angry-as-hell wrote: @Tas - why not stuff your own cigarettes using a stuffing machine and loose tobacco ? It's cheaper then factory produced cigarettes. Just a thought.


did try but cost same here
e-cigarrettes , forbiden here[ govt earns over 8 billion a year from smokers , they will never allow e-cigarettes here ]
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