I personally think it's the biggest mistake ever taken by CS along with losing PayPal, what are admin doing???? Killing the site!!!!!!!!!! Sad day to see the site go like it's going after being here 7 years.

kevin1877uk wrote: I personally think it's the biggest mistake ever taken by CS along with losing PayPal, what are admin doing???? Killing the site!!!!!!!!!! Sad day to see the site go like it's going after being here 7 years.

It's been here 10 Years...and you've been here 7

pennyD8984 wrote: That's what I don't understand. People are so worried about 0,1c/PTC and they don't see the biggest earning opportunities? I mean: completing surveys and offers are the best way to earn. Plain and simple. But you have to work for it. Plus, to be fair, I see the same ads over and over. I'm not going to join their websites. Even if there is a poorly photoshopped boat/Ferrari as proof of their earnings. Let's face it: if advertisers were more honest, Clixsense wouldn't have removed the PTC system.
In my opinion they did the right thing to stay alive and relevant.

Those 'dishonest' ads you refer to are on quite a few PTCs... I know some of the other PTC admins are members of eToro, MakeMoneyRobot etc... and their associated affiliation programs, so maybe now you'll understand why those ads never change.

You can be sure eToro, MakeMoneyRobot etc... do not run the ads, think of the cost of thousands of ads on a daily basis, they are admin ads trying to get you to join so they earn commissions through the affiliation. Of course, admin don't need to pay to run ads on their own site, and you can bet the membership fees more than cover the cost of paying out on those ads. e.g. $17 yearly upgrade on ClixSense gives $14.60 of guaranteed ads - there's still $2.40 left!! On another site the yearly upgrade is $90, and the guaranteed ads pay members just $32.85 a year... there's over $57 left!! That site has the same 'dishonest' ads!!

Now think... if membership is removed, there is no need for guaranteed ads. This is where PTC is truly profitable... advertisers pay sites to advertise, generally the advertising cost is twice the reward members receive, leaving sites enough to pay referral commission and make a profit. So maybe, ClixSense should remove membership and 8-level affiliate program, but keep PTC as on it's own it is profitable.

Also, without PTC members can't advertise their affiliate links on ClixSense. With ClixSense being the 'world's most popular PTC' the removal of PTC entirely is somewhat strange, especially as that other site I referred to above is a large competitor and I've already noticed an increase in ads there since ClixSense's decision last week.

Additionally, outside of the US offer/survey availability is very different... some countries have few, some have none at all... this is why some members can only click PTC ads and the loss of PTC on ClixSense is so important to them.

kevin1877uk wrote: I personally think it's the biggest mistake ever taken by CS along with losing PayPal, what are admin doing???? Killing the site!!!!!!!!!! Sad day to see the site go like it's going after being here 7 years.

PayPal loss was due to PayPal's idiotic policies, so can't blame admin for that. Please do not trust PayPal, they are basically thieves!! They earned millions of $$$ in fees from ClixSense before deciding the ClixSense business set up was a risk and closed their account. That is complete BS!!!

I can understand removal of the 8-level affiliate program as some can view this as a pyramid scheme, and it may be a great benefit to ClixSense in getting future, profitable associations.

I can even understand removal of the premium account too, if I clicked all the guaranteed $0.01 ads for the year I'd earn $14.60 back out of the $17 paid, leaving ClixSense just $2.40 - but of course, they also paid out $9 (1 x $2, 7 X $1) in commissions to referring members and their upline sponsors. Obviously, this is a possible large loss.

I just can't understand the loss of PTC!!! - That is a decision that could see millions of members leaving the site, as some members can't to offers/surveys as there are no available in their country.

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MLivePro wrote:

I just can't understand the loss of PTC!!! - That is a decision that could see millions of members leaving the site, as some members can't to offers/surveys as there are no available in their country.

There is a old saying"You can't please everyone"

Would you rather see that Jim does nothing,and in the end seeing CS going belly up?

His business his decision.

PTC is dying just look how few ads their are. Then add fact ClixSense losses money on them due price fixed ones sold. So this is good business choice if ptcs costing them ability add new stuff. People begged ClixSense get PayPal back well this is what that would cost. So add all 3 those facts why they did it.I not going miss it as I rarely click ads now. Now I get more money from my earnings as no longer buy ads here. So I love this idea from start.

Then add fact that now can stop spending money promoting this site until see how it plays out just another cherry on top.

The competitor got PayPal closed today? Hey guys you are leaving Clixsense next week? The competitor happen the same thing.

You guys mostly likely stay with Clixsense since you have no choice.

What are you going to do now?

tasman1 wrote: MLivePro .... pro say
I just can't understand the loss of PTC!!! - That is a decision that could see millions of members leaving the site, as some members can't to offers/surveys as there are no available in their country.????????



WOW millions ?
CS have 8 million members ,,, but how many active ??? few K ?

If 8 million are active who will give CS 32 million ads daily, say 4 ad

per member daily ??
In that case CS or any PTC will be bancrupt in 20 min

Wake up folks , no profit in ads

Well, I was estimating.... I mean about 2 million members have joined since the start of 2016, and knowing how many members are active is hard to know.

As for no money in PTC ads... do the maths... Advertisers pay $0.02 per click, members receive $0.01 per click, their referrers get $0.002 per click... leaving $0.008 per click for admin profit, 1,000 ads and that's $8. Of course, this does not include the daily 'sponsored' ads which are covered by membership fees - e.g. $17 upgrade guarantees $14.60 in $0.01 ads (365 x 4 x $0.01) leaving $2.40 profit for admin.

Also think about the other $0.005 / $0.001 working the same way. There is profit in PTC if done right.

sweetpie3000 wrote: The competitor got PayPal closed today? Hey guys you are leaving Clixsense next week? The competitor happen the same thing.

You guys mostly likely stay with Clixsense since you have no choice.

What are you going to do now?

Yes, you're right.... they knew it was only a matter of time due to PayPal policy... and they were ready for it.

No-one needs PayPal, only an idiot would trust them!!!

100,000 max active be more accurate based on recent fixed ads bought.

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It's doesn't effect me if ptc industry die today. I have so many choices making money online.

Making money online gold rush is your smartphone apps and games.

Alternative ptc industry

Get paid to play games
Get paid to watch video
Get paid to print receipts
Get paid to walk, exercise
Get paid online shopping and rebates sites

And many more you can make money online


You can get paid to lock screen your smartphone.

People will pay while you are sleeping

It's the end of the world for me. Since I don't rely ptc sites

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Marcel-R6 wrote:

sweetpie3000 wrote: The competitor got PayPal closed today? Hey guys you are leaving Clixsense next week? The competitor happen the same thing.

You guys mostly likely stay with Clixsense since you have no choice.

What are you going to do now?

I just left Neo,I asked a question about Payoneer and got banned on the spot on their forum.....

Odd. The thread where your post got deleted (which I assume got you banned) have 4 other users asking for Payoneer. And that thread is still open. I wonder what is it specifically you said that got you banned.

tasman1 wrote:

Marcel-R6 wrote:

sweetpie3000 wrote: The competitor got PayPal closed today? Hey guys you are leaving Clixsense next week? The competitor happen the same thing.

You guys mostly likely stay with Clixsense since you have no choice.

What are you going to do now?

I just left Neo,I asked a question about Payoneer and got banned on the spot on their forum.....

Only here we are free to talk
I know this very good
I told here so much stupidity
that at any site I will be banned until end of the time

And yes , blonde still walking with the dog

Stay here folks , you can still open your mouth here like tasman1

Every time he passes by , she gets older one day.

Soon you'll sit and look at a gray-haired lady with a walker.

So the future looks bright ...

MLivePro wrote:
Well, I was estimating.... I mean about 2 million members have joined since the start of 2016, and knowing how many members are active is hard to know.

As for no money in PTC ads... do the maths... Advertisers pay $0.02 per click, members receive $0.01 per click, their referrers get $0.002 per click... leaving $0.008 per click for admin profit, 1,000 ads and that's $8. Of course, this does not include the daily 'sponsored' ads which are covered by membership fees - e.g. $17 upgrade guarantees $14.60 in $0.01 ads (365 x 4 x $0.01) leaving $2.40 profit for admin.

Also think about the other $0.005 / $0.001 working the same way. There is profit in PTC if done right.

I had the same issue. Costs and profits should be quantifiable and fixed. You should be ale to guarantee yourself a profit. Then I realized they also sell the sticky ads which don't have a fixed rate. It all depends on how many click them. You can get an average but as other site ads drop the sticky cost could go up. As an advertiser, I would have no problem losing the stickies as long as some PTC remained. I seldom used them because I had good success with the fixed ads

As for results, I was getting about 3k -5k clicks per day when I ran an ad. That is pretty good

Maybe another option in the poll would be for promoters.

Before we lost paypal, I was earning $500 per month (my best ever month last December before the news hit). Yes, I was cashing most of it out but that money went to promoting the site. When we lost paypal I took a break from promoting since my earnings went down to $200 per month (after eliminating promotion costs I was still coming out just a little below what I was making before but I had no more referrals coming in). If they drop more (I'm on pace to earn $138 this month) I'm not going to spend outside cash to promote this site. I have directly been responsible for bringing in 14,000 members and my 8 level downline shows I have 7,000 indirect active referrals. If the active to inactive referral ratio hold up that accounts for 140,000 referrals to this site. That took 8 years to build with constant experimenting and reinvestment of practically every penny I've earned here. Fortunately, I have earned a profit and turned some of my earnings into referrals in other sites but my income was growing at about 10% - 20% per month which was all going into promoting CS more and buying more ads here.

If other referrers are in the same spot, how does this site expect to continue if we are no longer rewarded. There is no way, as an investor and not a clicker in these sites, that I'll spend online or offline income on promoting if my efforts are in vain. I have other sites that will give me that return that I can trust are sustainable

If you don't reward the investor class it will cost you

And the worst part is that it will be the poorest members on this site that will suffer! Why do you think I focus on them myself? This seems more like an act to skim the cream off the top and save a bunch of work but I could be wrong. Just remember. God blesses those who help the poor and he has no time for those who only think about serving the rich.

Now that may get my earnings punished all the more around here but as you see I don't really care any more. I'm sure I'll get by if not thrive

Marcel-R6 wrote:
I just left Neo,I asked a question about Payoneer and got banned on the spot on their forum.....

From Admin:

Quote:I had already gave a clear answer and that was pointed out to you before you gave a most impolite answer to the user that actually helped you. That answer was removed because this is a public forum in which that kind of impoliteness isn't welcome.

I don't see how anyone can call this the end of Clixsense. This morning after doing my clicks I wrote down my total which was $16.51 in my account. I just went and did a survey and am now over $18. Figuring I did less then 40 cents of clicks this morning in that $16.51 most of my cash daily is coming just from Surveys and offers. The PTC part here is for the birds, really it is, there are so many ways to make money here. You all just need to look around more.

Angry-as-hell wrote:

Marcel-R6 wrote:
I just left Neo,I asked a question about Payoneer and got banned on the spot on their forum.....

From Admin:

Quote:I had already gave a clear answer and that was pointed out to you before you gave a most impolite answer to the user that actually helped you. That answer was removed because this is a public forum in which that kind of impoliteness isn't welcome.

Impolite? Thanks for the quote Angry

Well I don't need neo anyway.