New World is starting
Many survive on govt hand outs like pension , welfare , etc

Now , it is possible govt in western wold will stop all welfare , pension , all help for poor

How long do you think you will survey in new world [ one can sell everything and have some spare cash but we have a debt to ]

My answer , best case scenario if i repay all debt and sell everything I think I can survive 3-5 years , no more

My family thought I was crazy not take disability. They give just enough for you to just barely survive than limit assets and bank accounts so can not save for rainy days you will have on there meager income.

Which is why I refused it. I figured with little effort I could do better than money they would provide. Accepting there handouts just guarantees you a life were just barely survive. And that's best case. Bulk people on disability do not even just barely survive. Money so low it never covers expenses no matter how much cut even on best months.

So if you have chance do better you better off not taking it. As sadly once take it you just guaranteeing yourself life of no hope. Sad fact is people on welfare get more than people on disability I will never understand that fact.

I rather starve to death than take handout from the government. So I have to lose my mind before I would accept disability.

I guess I would be ok. I live in a rural area and have land plus farm land. It wouldn't even
matter if I did not have electricity but it sure would be hotter than you know what in the summer
here without it. In the winter, no problem, I have enough wood to last forever and ever.

Everyone should have some basic survival skills.

Tas, in reality, despite what you see or read, our new government is not trying to kill off the poor and stop them from receiving help. What they ARE trying to do is get off the layabouts, freeloaders, and fraudsters off the rolls. We have had so much abuse of the system, it's unreal. People perfectly able to work (and yes, can even get work if they desired it). We also had a system where it was near impossible to receive the help given AND get ahead eventually. Plus, there was so little responsibility taken, so few monitors, and too dang many people fighting ... there's just no way it can be sustained like this.

And now, *some* Americans think it's perfectly ok for the handouts, they have no pride and no work ethics. It's so much easier to get assistance ... again for *some* people. And it is so easy to make a living off it, too. People have found ways to get around, and even profit greatly from Welfare.

All this makes it much harder for decent people who truly are in need to get the help. We can thank the fraudsters for what is happening now. And thank the previous government bleeding the taxpayers to brainwash people into thinking this is our right to live off the government. Ever think about WHY they want us like this? Yeah, I've worked my rear end off all my life, and will continue to do so. Government handouts are the quickest way to lose control over your own life.

I really feel badly for the people who get left out because of these frauds. My mother in law now is suffering through the lunacy with her cancer (and with the Sanctuary City crap we go through here in Denver). The extra help she was getting was cut off because she wasn't a minority, and she doesn't have any real property to let the government have when she passes...nor does she need to file a tax return, as she makes so little a year on Social Security. So we had to fight tooth and nail to get her the help she needed and we are all suffering because of it. Every single month for the last 2 years, I have had to call and beg and plead for payment plans, mercy on bills, etc. And the insults are many and vile, from people who are supposed to help. My husband and I are not rich by any means, and her sister is on Social Security, too. But, we do all we can without much assistance.

But the people down the street, with several grown children well able to work, and the baby daddy's are quite healthy, they get assistance for everything. There are NO ill people in that house. The woman pulls in over $5,000 a month in Welfare benefits, and her kids get about half that much. And they aren't the only ones. This is everywhere.

Sorry for the ramble, but with so much misinformation running rampant, I just wanted you to get another view with experience.

Susy_A wrote: Tas, in reality, despite what you see or read, our new government is not trying to kill off the poor and stop them from receiving help. What they ARE trying to do is get off the layabouts, freeloaders, and fraudsters off the rolls. We have had so much abuse of the system, it's unreal. People perfectly able to work (and yes, can even get work if they desired it). We also had a system where it was near impossible to receive the help given AND get ahead eventually. Plus, there was so little responsibility taken, so few monitors, and too dang many people fighting ... there's just no way it can be sustained like this.

And now, *some* Americans think it's perfectly ok for the handouts, they have no pride and no work ethics. It's so much easier to get assistance ... again for *some* people. And it is so easy to make a living off it, too. People have found ways to get around, and even profit greatly from Welfare.

All this makes it much harder for decent people who truly are in need to get the help. We can thank the fraudsters for what is happening now. And thank the previous government bleeding the taxpayers to brainwash people into thinking this is our right to live off the government. Ever think about WHY they want us like this? Yeah, I've worked my rear end off all my life, and will continue to do so. Government handouts are the quickest way to lose control over your own life.

I really feel badly for the people who get left out because of these frauds. My mother in law now is suffering through the lunacy with her cancer (and with the Sanctuary City crap we go through here in Denver). The extra help she was getting was cut off because she wasn't a minority, and she doesn't have any real property to let the government have when she passes...nor does she need to file a tax return, as she makes so little a year on Social Security. So we had to fight tooth and nail to get her the help she needed and we are all suffering because of it. Every single month for the last 2 years, I have had to call and beg and plead for payment plans, mercy on bills, etc. And the insults are many and vile, from people who are supposed to help. My husband and I are not rich by any means, and her sister is on Social Security, too. But, we do all we can without much assistance.

But the people down the street, with several grown children well able to work, and the baby daddy's are quite healthy, they get assistance for everything. There are NO ill people in that house. The woman pulls in over $5,000 a month in Welfare benefits, and her kids get about half that much. And they aren't the only ones. This is everywhere.

Sorry for the ramble, but with so much misinformation running rampant, I just wanted you to get another view with experience.

Agree with your point but.......

Hand outs will stop in 5-10 years max
Govt debt ....at all time high , can not be repaid ever
Business debt .....same
Household debt ....same [Australian data say here we spend 3 times more than what we earn ]

How long do you think they can just print more money.........no way , it will stop
Welfare , yes for last 100 years but no for last 5 million years [ it is new invention ]
They will stop welfare madnes , trust me , nothing is forever

hello i'm running for congress. I will stop all welfare, pensions and social security. my chances of being elected 0%

petercotton wrote: hello i'm running for congress. I will stop all welfare, pensions and social security. my chances of being elected 0%

Please increase welfare 100% and your chance will jump to 100%....welcome my dear congressman

tasman1 wrote:

petercotton wrote: hello i'm running for congress. I will stop all welfare, pensions and social security. my chances of being elected 0%

Please increase welfare 100% and your chance will jump to 100%....welcome my dear congressman

Yeah.....yeah Thats the ticket!

petercotton wrote: hello i'm running for congress. I will stop all welfare, pensions and social security. my chances of being elected 0%

No, your chances of being elected is 100%, your doubt about not being elected is bewildering for me. May i remind you my fellow illumati brother that we are the enlightened ones and take care of our own. I guess you must be new. If you are planning on getting into any political office we will surely help you, no doubt. Yes, the regular population votes but has no power to change things, they're sheep we allow participation to keep them quiet, nothing more. We have already put countless other enlightened brothers and sisters around the globe into very powerful and influential positions in finance, politics, education, media, agriculture, military and in the justice system. You wouldn't believe the power we hold over the regular sheep. So you see my enlightened friend, you are not alone and you have nothing to fear. Take care my illuminati friend, i'll see you at the next gathering in the 3rd row of 80 degrees north inside out and upside down at the pyramid of light. Wink*