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Huricane Irma, Jose , Katia ,what next,,tasman1

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#1 by tasman1 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 01:23

Three hurricanes threatening landfall ‘unparalleled in modern times

Hurricane Irma likely to be followed by more extreme weather events

Hurricane Jose upgraded as it heads to already destroyed islands

Hurricane Katia not far behind

The fact that we have seen two such extraordinary events in one week should be a sign of what is coming


What is next ?
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#2 by Nikorj » Sat Sep 09, 2017 05:47

Sunny weather 32 degrees ;)
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#3 by Arvind9 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 07:45

Another eclipse
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#4 by WaRDFrA » Sat Sep 09, 2017 08:07

You posting a third topic about hurricanes in about 5 minutes?

Regards.
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#5 by dutch1898 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 08:56

How about the wildfires raging out of control in so many places.
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#6 by DannyChiarelli » Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:19

Hurricane formation in the Atlantic is below average. . .
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#7 by larryonly » Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:41

Formation may be below the average or late to start, but this is a very severe one 'Irma' .
But your Mr. Trump seems to think that man and pollution have no impact on the strength or severity of them ????
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#8 by DannyChiarelli » Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:44

Proof?

So far this year formations are earlier. . .

So you are incorrect there. . . :thumbup:
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#9 by Micshad » Tue Sep 12, 2017 05:00

Weather goes in cycles. This is just an active cycle, the first one in years. Usually most of them fall apart before hitting the mainland. NOAA predicted 10–16 named storms, 4–8 hurricanes, and 1–4 major hurricanes and that's a normal year. This isn't the first time there were active hurricanes. The Weather Channel always gives an estimate of how many hurricanes or tropical storms will form in the June to November months and so far, it's below their estimate. September has always been the most active month for some reason, and it's not because of climate chancge.

Just because 3 hurricanes have made it to the Mexico/U.S. doesn't mean squat. it's just an active season this year, that's all. The reason for all the devastation is because there are more people living in coastal regions, too.
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#10 by valerie » Tue Sep 12, 2017 07:36

There are many hurricanes but few that are so extremely devastating.

The thing about today, compared to yesteryears, is that we've gained knowledge in many ways.
Today we can better predict the weather and how strong storms may become. We also are more
techno advantaged so that we can contact populations ahead of time to warn them. In addition,
there are many storm shelters and resources. Altho not every where or every building, construction
is becoming much more advanced and restricted in building codes.

Hurricanes such as Harvey and Irma, would have killed tens of thousands of people years ago.
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#11 by sp1915 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:34

Was Hurricane Harvey/Irma Artificially Intensified by Geoengineering Programs?

Cloud-seeding and atmospheric spraying, for example, are well-documented and backed up historical accounts, and are often discussed in mainstream media. Yet, for some reason, the issue is unbearably difficult for most people to even consider.

Open your mind and consder it.

:silent:
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#12 by valerie » Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:19

sp1915 wrote: Was Hurricane Harvey/Irma Artificially Intensified by Geoengineering Programs?

Cloud-seeding and atmospheric spraying, for example, are well-documented and backed up historical accounts, and are often discussed in mainstream media. Yet, for some reason, the issue is unbearably difficult for most people to even consider.

Open your mind and consder it.

:silent:

Possible.

Personally, I think it's kind of like using common sense. We know from history and even
thousands of years ago, mother nature played a huge role in wrecking havoc and carving
out the earth.

The disappearance of the dinosaurs
The extinction of animals and ocean life
The huge redwoods
The grand canyon

So many things on this planet we see and take for granted without even thinking about it,
was actually caused by some sort of disaster.

In my opinion, there are things that humans do that relate strongly to the environment.
For example, all the plastic and garbage in the ocean is certainly doing harm and no one can dispute that.

Pollution and chemicals going into the air, has certainly got to do harm to everything that lives.

In regards to 'Global Warming', I don't know of I agree that people are actually making the globe
warmer. That may happen weather people existed or not.

Yesterday, one of my outside cats had a little bird in it's mouth and the little bird was crying like
crazy. I went outside and removed the bird from the mouth of the cat. Fortunately the bird was
still ok. The bird jumped up into one of my boxwood shrubs and hid there most the day. I had
said to Bob, 'Some times I hate these cats!'. Bob replied 'It's just nature' and I replied 'Who's
nature?' Is it the cat's nature or the birds nature? I call it 'murder'.

What I am saying is, I hate the way we murder the planet and simply call it 'nature' because
sure, some of it is but a large part of it isn't.
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#13 by sp1915 » Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:44

Yeah Mother Nature plays a huge role in wrecking havoc all on her own and it's not very
nice to mess with her.

Many streaks across the desert skies this year, more than normal. Cooling things down?
Well no thanks. The humidity and dewpoint has been just unbearable here and still is. :roll:
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#14 by valerie » Tue Sep 12, 2017 13:43

Maybe it's Martians.

I do believe in life else where.
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#15 by seaeagle » Fri Sep 15, 2017 09:44

It's all just basic physics really. Nothing too complicated. Warm water contains more energy than cold water. The ocean is just a big heat-sink for the planet. That heat energy transfers to the air above it, causing it to expand & lose pressure, and start swirling. Warmer air holds more moisture, and warmer water evaporates more, so more clouds form & more rain will eventually fall. This means bigger & stronger hurricanes/cyclones/typhoons, and more rain when they hit land.

The unusual thing is the 3 hurricanes in a line. A big storm will cause turbulence in the ocean, and cold water from the deep will rise to the surface & cool it, thus removing the energy that feeds storms & hurricanes. That is why the one farthest to the west petered out in the Caribbean - it hit cold water churned up by the hurricane before it. That is one of the reasons why there may be fewer hurricanes in the years ahead, but the ones that do form will be very powerful.

Climate change? It's happening. No doubt about it. Again, basic physics. Just as microwaves are the right frequency to excite the water (H2O or dihydrogen-monoxide) molecules in your food & heat it up, infrared radiation is just the right frequency to excite carbon-dioxide (CO2) molecules. The more CO2 in the air, the more molecules to excite & heat the air up.

Most of us would have learned about basic spectroscopy in high school science - every atom absorbs & emits radiation/light at a different frequency. It's how they worked out what the sun is made of, what gases the atmospheres of all the planets in the solar system contain, and even the expansion of the universe (the red-shift in the spectrum).
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#16 by valerie » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:32

I think I just had a science lesson and for free! :D
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#17 by larryonly » Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:35

I don't understand why the US does not at least try to bomb one of these monster hurricanes ?
That 'earthquake bomb should do it , I believe that it can be controlled detonation, so detonate at 10,000 feet.
The combination explode and implode after should kill the hurricane ??
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#18 by Arvind9 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:29

Its just a natural phenomenon disturbing it could create a bigger problem,its not the Hurricane that is a problem the problem is with the infrastructure,there are countries which face a Hurricane 6-10 times a year,recently the Philippines was hit by a Hurricane but no one was concerned,countries like the Philippines,Indonesia are prone to Hurricanes, Earthquakes, Tsunamis country is not rich to put in place an appropriate infrastructure,there is a country in the Indian Ocean Mauritius its prone to Hurricans,actually I have seen a Hurricane there pass over,no one leaves their home ,government is very well prepared,as long as doors and windows are air tight nothing happens, after the Hurricane passses over the government does the clean up and keeps people informed normalcy is restored in five days its not the size of the country its the infrastructure in place that keeps everything intact.
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#19 by pipster1234 » Fri Sep 15, 2017 13:53

Quote:Climate change? It's happening. No doubt about it.

i'd just like to point out for the last 3,000 year or so we been in a relative clam weather environment for this planet. was this caused by man? of course not. things were warming up prior to that with a few mini iceages tossed in. point is things are NOT supposed to be like they were during this period. it is part of the reason man has done so well on this planet.

bring back the massive volcano's, the mega storms, etc. that is how nature normally is, it's called natural selection and population control.

as far as "global warming" goes it has been going on since the last iceage ended. is it starting to speed up? maybe, maybe not but i am 100% sure the neanderthals didn't sit around their campfires saying dang it we need to invent solar ovens because you see those glaciers retreating....
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#20 by adacelimar » Fri Sep 15, 2017 14:22

Wow amazing...
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