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#41 by Delman77 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:05

Update day 3..
Much better day so far... though hardly as type this eaten anything...

Very minimal burning if at all, sipping or drinking water with apple cider vinegar in.

Took quarter of rantidine pill i broken in 4, so if 150 mg, about say 30 or 33 mg worth..

Had few almonds, and spinach and err, little slice meat, have to eat soon again, feeling weird in brain and you know, gotta eat..
BUT, so far, 3rd day no omeprazole, and yay, much better so far, but always gets worse in afternoon, after midday, around 2 pm onwards for some reason.

NOT going back on those ppi, if this kills me, so be it, so long as in heaven with Yeshua :)..

Gonna darn well beat this, this time, wife gone to town, so getting me garlic...

Garlic
Of all the natural antibiotics, garlic is my personal favorite and my family’s go-to for internal use. The reason is that it kills the pathogens, not just bacteria but also fungus and viruses too without harming beneficial gut flora.

Garlic packs a punch with phytochemicals and healing sulfur components. These sulfur compounds even chelate toxic heavy metals (like lead & cadmium), binding with them for excretion out of the body.
It has antibacterial, anti-fungal, and even antiviral qualities.
It promotes the growth of healthy intestinal microflora by acting as a prebiotic (food for probiotics).
Garlic helps keep fats from oxidizing.
Garlic acts as a strong antioxidant and guards against DNA damage.
It protects against radiation & sunlight damage.
Garlic fights worms and parasites.
It benefits digestion, which is good for the whole body.


I have capsules, but always something else in them, like says might contain silicon dixode, oh lovely just what needed, I'll mash it up with some tin foil, go down a treat, not.
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#42 by Delman77 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 17:39

Now taking raw garlic cloves... :).. (Disclaimer, do your own research as some suggest it does not help).



Results:
the mean UBT significantly differed before and after treatment with garlic cloves, being significantly lower after garlic consumption. No meaningful difference was observed in the mean UBT without garlic consumption between the first and second steps.

Conclusion:
Raw garlic has anti-bacterial effects against H. pylori residing in the stomach and may be prescribed along with routine drugs for the treatment of gastric H. pylori infection.
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Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori) is the most common bacterial infection in the world and is the most prevalent gastric bacterial pathogen in humans (Hekmatdoosta et al., 2015 ▶). In developed nations, the prevalence of this bacterium is 20-40% in adults while in developing countries the occurrence rate of this infection is relatively high; in fact, at the age of 20, 70-90% of the population are infected (Fennerty, 2005 ▶; Suerbaum and Michetti, 2002 ▶). H. pylori can cause chronic and active gastritis mainly affecting the antrum or fundus; it colonizes in the gastric mucosa and causes gastric inflammation in that region without even directly attacking the tissue. It is also capable of remaining in the area as colonized for a long time without any specific symptoms (Jabbari Nooghabi and jabbariNooghabi, 2008 ▶). H. pylori infection is associated with gastrointestinal diseases such as gastritis, peptic and duodenum ulcers, gastric adenocarcinoma, Malt lymphoma and non-gastrointestinal diseases including cardiovascular,thyroidand skin diseases, and other disorders such as autoimmune disorders, anemia, Guillain-Barré syndrome and migraine (Peterson et al., 2000 ▶).

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1. Probiotics

Since H. pylori is an unwanted or “bad bacteria” in the gut, it makes total sense that probiotics (the “good bacteria”) can help to naturally fight this type of infection. A 2012 placebo-controlled pilot study published in the journal Inflammation and Allergy Drug Targets looked at the effects of probiotics on people with dyspepsia who tested positive for pylori bacteria. They found that following treatment with an eight-strain probiotic supplement, 13 of the 40 patients had a complete eradication of their H. pylori. (14)

Another more recent study in 2017 makes an excellent point — the common antibiotics used to get rid of H. pylori (including amoxicillin, clarithromycin and metronidazole) often do not successfully eradicate H. pylori in sufferers due to antibiotic resistance, which is becoming more prevalent as overuse of antibiotics continues.


I have already ordered from amazon, pro-botics and err, aloe vera juice, so waiting on them to come and crack on battling this..
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#43 by Delman77 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 09:20

Day 4..

no omeprazole... doing ok as usual in morning, aloe vera and garlic, oh eating raw garlic, gosh, and then clean teeth and tongue burns, lol... Spinach and sliced chicken meat, bought kind from walmart...

Erm... took before eating, quarter rantidine pill, so around 30 to 33mg, as they are 150mg..

Determined not to return to omeprazole... Fighting well, it's afternoons, around 12 to 2 pm i seem to have trouble, more burning, just getting some now as type, over my trouble spot... I'll be ordering mastic gum hopefully in coming days or so..

I refuse to return this time to omeprazole...
I do not recommend, as internet and doctors say all over the place, DO NOT go cold turkey like me... certainly not without, sadly using the other man made drugs, rantidine etc...

Anyway thought keep posted for people like RMCaronn.........
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#44 by Delman77 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 16:21

I found this interesting...

Today from Fred Meyer I got some Oregano oil capsules... So hoping, be ok...

Other Benefits of Oregano Oil
In addition to acting as a natural antibiotic, oil of oregano has many other benefits. Some of these include:

Reducing inflammation: Oil of oregano activates PPAR and suppresses COX-2 inflammation. Because inflammation is the root of many disorders, this make oil of oregano useful for treating GI problems such as IBS and SIBO, heartburn, bloating, psoriasis, and more.6
Anti-Fungal: Oil of oregano also destroys fungi and is shown to destroy candida, thus making it a natural treatment for yeast infections. 7, 8
Allergies and Respiratory Problems: In addition to the carvacrol in oil of oregano, its flavonoids and terpenes are potent at fighting ailments such as asthma, allergies, sneezing, and coughing. 9
Parasites: If you are traveling to a developing country, you might want to bring along some oil of oregano to treat traveler’s diarrhea. Oregano oil is potent at killing bacteria as well as parasites and worms which might cause stomach problems from consuming tainted foods or water.

How Oregano Oil Fights Bacterial Infections
If you were to load a bunch of fresh oregano on your tongue, you’d experience a warm, slightly spicy taste. That taste comes from a compound in oregano oil called carvacrol.

Carvacrol is also found in many other herbs, such as marjoram, thyme, and savory. However, it has its highest concentration in oregano.1

In numerous studies, carvacrol has been shown to be a potent antibacterial against numerous strains of bacteria. It is thought to work by destroying the cell membranes of bacteria and stopping them from replicating. 2, 3, 4

What makes the carvacrol in oil of oregano particularly interesting as a natural antibiotic is that it is shown to destroy harmful bacteria while keeping helpful probiotic bacteria intact.

Research shows that, at dosages which cause 97% to 100% of inhibition of pathogenic bacteria, only 3% to 5% of probiotics were inhibited.5
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#45 by Delman77 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 16:33

Diet: The best would be to avoid grains altogether (all grains provide carbohydrates that break down into sugar which subsequently feed the bacteria); however, at the very least, DO NOT eat white flour products such as white flour, potatoes, sugar, rice, tapioca etc. Eat lots of vegetables, squash, fruit, nuts, seeds, and protein such as chicken, beef, fish, pork etc. Pay attention to packaged foods and canned foods that may have hidden sugars such as high fructose corn syrup, glucose, sugar, brown sugar, and molasses. You may use stevia powder/liquid (can find at health food stores) or honey to sweeten foods. I know this sounds restrictive but it’s only until the h. pylori is eradicated; you can slowly add foods back into your diet as you can tolerate them. Keep in mind that after the bacteria is gone, it may take several months for any inflammation or gastritis that the bacteria caused to clear up.
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#46 by Raizvan » Wed Dec 20, 2017 16:50

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#47 by lotoole » Wed Dec 20, 2017 17:59

Delman, your posts are interesting, particularly the subject of linking gluten to psychosis.

I too have reflux but I don't think it is gluten related. It's more linked to my own personal preference for very spicy foods. My theory is that if the food doesn't have a burn, it's not edible. Yes, I pay later but some things are worth the pain. I just keep a big bottle of Tums handy. (Home made chili with habaneros, green chilis, nachos, red peppers and chili powder . . . mmmmmm.)
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#48 by Vholston » Wed Dec 20, 2017 19:29

Thank you for posting this Delman77 .....I have been considering going gluten free to try it. I can't seem to loose the extra pounds around my middle and someone once told me to try gluten free. Problem is, i love love love sweets and breads.....it's gonna be HARD !! lol But after reading your post it's making me really taking it more serious !! I also suffer from depression, anxiety , fibromyalgia, RA, osteoarthritis, heart burn, IBS......seems like you name it i got it !! lol
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#49 by Delman77 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:44

Day 5..

Fine, wife made soup like kinda meal last night gosh, over ate, lol, caused bit bloating feeling but boy i was hungry...

Anyway think I might try cheese today, start introducing and see how it affects me..

Otherwise doing great, 5 days finally hopefully off omeprazole and just using, well I got couple or so Ranitidine left, but bought the Famotidine one, 10mg, been taking half or quarter off that and not bad so far...

But my time getting on for midday normally after then in to afternoon gets worse.
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#50 by Delman77 » Thu Dec 21, 2017 17:23

Guys it's not so much gluten, that is happening apparently because of the gut leaking, damage done, not processing it right, so to speak..

Have to see links I've provided.. Lot is to do with that, like fructose and high carbs and yes not deny maybe some fasts and spicy foods still can cause issues..

But we been conned, misled...

If take those things, and believe me, when get pain, i want the chewy tums like things, but look at ingredients. Ever wondered why cough sweets only seem to work at time, then tickle you and need another, if they cured you, not need another, lol.. Sugar I bet mainly...

But it is truly fascinating stuff, and this trying to reduce acid allows the bacteria to grow in small intestine and then the trouble starts, lower gate so to speak doesn't open as much leaving more food in tummy, what one video said I watched and so causing more acid and bloating and trouble...

I had read for a while now, bit back that was not too much acid but too little...

Anyway all food for thought..
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#51 by valerie » Thu Dec 21, 2017 18:27

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#52 by Delman77 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 01:39

WORD of caution...

It might not be that, but in the evening suddenly itching a lot, especially around sides and my back. When went to bed think slept about an hour or so then woke up..
Feeling weird and one thing and another. Now the oregano oil, 1 daily and I did take 2 capsules, not at same time, thin other was oh gosh maybe couple hours or maybe much more after first one, taken one yesterday no problems..
It could be it working and or could be something else like the Famotidine ant acid pills, could be anything as in those thing mixed with other things, but just in case, thought warn because not want anyone following me, or advise on here, from links and trying this and getting side effects.
Hate that weird feeling, might be erm all kinda in the mind, bring the thing on yourself through fear, but that feeling you get where feel strange and scared might pass out or faint, hard to explain, but always freaks me out.

anyway google



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From WEBMD
Oregano is a plant. The leaf is used to make medicine.

Oregano is used for respiratory tract disorders such as coughs, asthma, croup, and bronchitis. It is also used for gastrointestinal (GI) disorders such as heartburn and bloating. Other uses include treating menstrual cramps, rheumatoid arthritis, urinary tract disorders including urinary tract infections (UTIs), headaches, and heart conditions.

The oil of oregano is taken by mouth for intestinal parasites, allergies, sinus pain, arthritis, cold and flu, swine flu, earaches, and fatigue. It is applied to the skin for skin conditions including acne, athlete's foot, oily skin, dandruff, canker sores, warts, ringworm, rosacea, and psoriasis; as well as for insect and spider bites, gum disease, toothaches, muscle pain, and varicose veins. Oregano oil is also used topically as an insect repellent.

In foods and beverages, oregano is used as a culinary spice and a food preservative.


How does it work?
Oregano contains chemicals that might help reduce cough and spasms. Oregano also might help digestion by increasing bile flow and fighting against some bacteria, viruses, fungi, intestinal worms, and other parasites.
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Side effects though could be..
Oregano leaf is LIKELY SAFE when taken in the amounts found in food and POSSIBLY SAFE when taken by mouth or applied to the skin in medicinal amounts. Mild side effects include stomach upset. Oregano might also cause an allergic reaction in people who have an allergy to plants in the Lamiaceae family.

Not enough is known about the safety of using oregano oil in medicinal amounts.

Special Precautions & Warnings:
Pregnancy and breast-feeding: Oregano is POSSIBLY UNSAFE when taken by mouth in medicinal amounts during pregnancy. There is concern that oregano in amounts larger than food amounts might cause miscarriage. Not enough is known about the safety of oregano when used in medicinal amounts while nursing.

Bleeding disorders: Oregano might increase the risk of bleeding in people with bleeding disorders.

Allergies: Oregano can cause reactions in people allergic to Lamiaceae family plants, including basil, hyssop, lavender, marjoram, mint, and sage.

Diabetes: Oregano might lower blood sugar levels. People with diabetes should use oregano cautiously.

Surgery: Oregano might increase the risk of bleeding. People who use oregano should stop 2 weeks before surgery.
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As i say it might not be that, might be something else...
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#53 by Delman77 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 01:48

Looks like Valerie removed all the links, so as did yesterday anyone interested getting well if have any conditions, post here and I'll message you...

SIBO.. Heartburn for me, acid reflux/gerd etc..

But I'm learning could be much more,..

Symptoms of SIBO
The indications of SIBO mirror the symptoms of other gastrointestinal disorders, including IBS. According to a study published in the World Journal of Gastroenterology, there’s good reason for the similar symptoms — there’s a definite association between IBS and SIBO. Researchers suggest that physicians give consideration of excluding SIBO before giving a definitive diagnosis of IBS. (3)


Common symptoms of SIBO and IBS include:

Nausea
Bloating
Vomiting
Diarrhea
Malnutrition
Weight loss
Joint pain
Fatigue
Rashes
Acne
Eczema
Asthma
Depression
Rosacea


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Causes and Risk Factors of SIBO
There are a number of underlying conditions believed to contribute to small intestine bacterial overgrowth. This includes aging, chronic pancreatitis, diabetes, diverticulosis, a structural defect in the small intestine, injury, fistula, intestinal lymphoma and scleroderma. (4)

The use of certain medications, including immunosuppressant medications, proton pump inhibitors, immune system disorders, recent abdominal surgery and celiac disease are also associated with an increased risk for developing SIBO. Celiac disease can be of particular concern, as it disturbs gut motility leading to improper small intestine functioning. (5)

According to a study published in the American Journal of Gastroenterology, 66 percent of patients with celiac disease who maintained a strict gluten-free diet tested positive for bacterial overgrowth.

In this study, patients were treated individually with a combination of antibiotics, prescription medications for worms and parasites, and a change in diet. All patients reported their symptoms were abated after SIBO treatment. (6)

Another underlying cause of SIBO symptoms is blind loop syndrome. This occurs when the small intestine actually forms a loop, causing food to bypass parts of the digestive tract. This causes food to move more slowly through the system, and the result is a breeding ground for bacteria. (7)

Metabolic disorders, including type 2 diabetes that’s not properly controlled, are believed to lead or contribute to certain gastrointestinal disorders. In fact, a study published in Diabetes & Metabolism indicates that SIBO was present in 43 percent of diabetics with chronic diabetes. (8)

Aging is another risk factor for developing small intestine bacterial overgrowth. As we age, the digestive tract slows down. It’s generally accepted that non-hospitalized adults over the age of 61 have a 15 percent prevalence rate of SIBO, in contrast with just under 6 percent in individuals 24 to 59. A study published in the Journal of the American Geriatric Society also found that over 30 percent of disabled older adults have SIBO.

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Stacks more on this site, so let me know, happy to pass on.. Hope people will google it that do not belong to this site and come across it as I genuinely want to help others suffering like I have :).

draxe and sibo symptoms you can type in :).
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#54 by Delman77 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 02:09

SEE my couple posts above this one first...


Nielzy

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Like any herb that you hadn't tried before you should always start off slow. For many people (not all of you) that have experience bad reasons to oil of oregano perhaps it may be a case of too much too quick. Like many herbs you need to build up your dose. If you have too much too quickly especially for those suffering with candida it can kill the candida too quickly that you body can't handle the toxins caused from the dying candida poisoning you body. This is called the die off period. I recommend diluting oil of oregano 1-2 drops in 8- drops of olive oil and take 1 drop morning and 1 drop night. Gradually increase dosage if your body can handle it. The worse your candida is the worse the die off effect may be so start slow.

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I must say itching over body seems to have stopped and, that erm did have and doing it again now, itch and possible rash on left hand. Anyway people on that site swear by and some not... So thought make every one away of it, are other means can use to also get rid of bacteria, likely also a cautionary note using them too..

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Grapefruit Seed Extract (I was wanting this could not find at Fred Meyer why got oregano oil)
Garlic (I been eating it raw, ouch i know, also on the not to have list with heartburn, seemed ok to me though)
Ginger (I not tried that though)
Olive Leaf Extract (I have not tried that though)
Turmeric (I have not tried that though)
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#55 by Delman77 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 02:18

See my above recent posts first... This one makes a good point..

jessica_11

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i would suggest lowering carb intake to below 50gs a day, its much more effective at ridding the body of candida. most carbs should come from green vegetables, a whole foods, organic and grass fed diet should be top priority. at the same time be sure to increase the intake of fluids and electrolytes, especially potassium and magnesium. copious amounts of broth and sea weeds, which contain iodine and trace minerals, are very beneficial. also trading up coffee for green tea helps, taking a probiotic and adding a digestive enzyme help eliminate gut disbiosis.

this is what worked for me after years of trying to eliminate systemic candida, which mostly manifested as carb intake related fevers, small sores on the side of the mouth and bouts of acne and dandruff. I tried a host of natural products, oil of oregano for YEARS, herbal teas, tinctures, pills, coconut, lauric acid, grape fruit seed extract, all kinds of other things, but mostly I had to eliminate the environmental conditions in my body that were allowing the candida to proliferate. didn't take long, maybe two months to see marked results. I am now much happier following a lower carb diet, more energy, better mood, absolutely no signs or symptoms that had manifested previously, clear skin, great digestion.....
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#56 by Delman77 » Fri Dec 22, 2017 02:37

I MUST point out (See my latest posts above) That I took two capsules, says only to take one daily and it recommends use of a probotic, which think I ordered and might have come over other place I have to go over and check..
Least itching stopped now 2:32am, I might if i feel ok be able to get some sleep, up 5:40 as it is.. Anyway thanks all for letting me post, sorry so many.. JUST FREAKS me out, hence why never go hospital, when I get that weird feeling in my head, fading sensation, hard to explain, like oh no, oh God please, start praying and pacing around, freaking out likely what makes it worse.. Family away, on own, and no one to turn to, have to remember other episodes and try calm down..
Drinking water, but course means going toilet more, but hoping will help.
I'll maybe stop despite $13 cost or give it a break and continue with 1 capsule daily as advised.. I'm normally ok with things, like nuts etc, though I have noticed when had things like peppermint life savers, makes me sneeze some times.. Suffer hayfever too, get grass/hay on me when I have to feed our pony cause others away, i get rashes.. So yeah, go figure eh...
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#57 by Delman77 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 08:52

Day 7 FINAL UPDATE then...

Yeah I'm finally off, well not gonna return to Omeprazole again, super chuffed, for the most part, any burning on my troubled area which hoping just an ulcer, and not become barrets which can be cancer, but I take care off with tablets which I've broken in half and then halved again so max i take a day be 3 or 4 of them, so often mixing the rantidine with the Fsmotidine and not at same time..

Point is, having tried cold turkey 3 or more times before and was ok next day then by day three had to go back on omprezole cause was in absolute dire constant pain all the time.. This time I'm not..

I still remain convinced Gluten/ and or wheat were my energy and possible mood related problems, might been more issues, and that got better... Apparently might be not gluten's or wheat's fault...
And going low carbs, could be what is helping with next to no burning, so if have heartburn, try next to no carb foods.
HAVING said that, cheese I have one slice of, has next to no carbs and might been causing issues soon as I have had last couple of days.. This could be fattiness of it, not that I'm alergic to Dairy, yet to determine that one for sure..

NOW, PLEASE please please read...

Seeing as not allowed to post links, read some of the above posts, where I've copied over info..

Google Chris Kresser..
It appears that this is what happens..

You eat foods that encourage bacteria grow, this over takes your gut and you get holes or gaps and or leaky gut, this can't process the nutients and this leads to many issues, like, some think now diabetes and goodness only knows what.. And of course heartburn..

YOU go normal doctor, they as usual, treat the symptom not the issue... You take the ppi and reducce acid, feel ok for a bit, BUT..........

With the acid reduced, now the bacteria can grow more, lose lose sitiuation in the end... After weeks months years stuck on darn drugs can't get off.... well, you know the score..

Remember every one different, in their bodies and makeup to a certain degree.. But would seem for me, reduced burnings on my damaged area daily I'd say by 75% to 90% WOW I know..

Do I miss bread, HECK YES, skittles, yes and chocolate yes and so on, BUT, I DO NOT miss pain more...

IF YOU ARE suffering in pain for what ever reason, GOD made us that way, so body saying hey something wrong, investigate it...

BE careful online, can get world of info that some might not be right... having said that we lucky today to have the internet to go explore and see if other had this issue not just relying and trusting totally on the normal doctor, often not their fault, they do not know.

CONCLUSION.

Week on and yes doing some physical work yesterday I got tired, it was lovely, huh, LOL, normal tired, not out of breath about to drop down dead kinda tired... So nice to be me again, sure still get head dull like weird aches sometimes, forgive me, especially TAZman, will grr a bit some times, but mostly, better in my head, energy levels and less burning..
GO low carb diet, please and cut out processed stuff, and frustose and sugars and added sugars and get off those killer ppi people.. If I can do it now finally, you can to, and I'm never going back on them...

GBU all..
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#58 by fred891 » Sat Dec 23, 2017 10:03

You are an interesting person Delman77. At first I was not going to read all of this. Then when you were writing about omeprazole abuse, I had to read on. I have found that I can't live without the drug. Zantac etc. just will not take away that horrible pain in my stomach. Only PPIs work and I spend lots of money on them. I did come across an interesting group of sellers on Amazon (far down the page) that sell the drug cheaper. I clicked the link & it took me to Ebay and a bunch of sellers that had the drug so cheap I couldn't believe the price. I ordered 2 bottles (120 each) at $9 per bottle and I waited & waited some more. I thought I got ripped off so I sent them an email. They replied and when I got the order, I received 4 bottles (480) capsules for less than $20. The sellers are from India. I didn't know they could sell meds to the USA. Btw, the drug work just as good as those I buy here.
I wish I could get off them, but my reflux is so bad that I can no longer sleep in a bed because food comes up into my mouth while I'm sleeping and I have inhaled this toxic mess at times. I usually wake up chocking & coughing & I expell this poison before I drown in it. I have to sleep in my recliner now just to be safe. That is where my life is because of gerd and other stomach problems. I don't get very good sleep as you can imagine.
Also I have thought that probiotics were a scam & did not work. There are so many on the market and the price is so high. I can't believe they work. If you feel they work, please let us know which of the brands work so we don't waste lots of money using brands that don't work.
Hope you get better & let us know what works. Best of all to you & yours for Christmas and the new year.
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#59 by valerie » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:04

fred891 wrote: You are an interesting person Delman77. At first I was not going to read all of this. Then when you were writing about omeprazole abuse, I had to read on. I have found that I can't live without the drug. Zantac etc. just will not take away that horrible pain in my stomach. Only PPIs work and I spend lots of money on them. I did come across an interesting group of sellers on Amazon (far down the page) that sell the drug cheaper. I clicked the link & it took me to Ebay and a bunch of sellers that had the drug so cheap I couldn't believe the price. I ordered 2 bottles (120 each) at $9 per bottle and I waited & waited some more. I thought I got ripped off so I sent them an email. They replied and when I got the order, I received 4 bottles (480) capsules for less than $20. The sellers are from India. I didn't know they could sell meds to the USA. Btw, the drug work just as good as those I buy here.
I wish I could get off them, but my reflux is so bad that I can no longer sleep in a bed because food comes up into my mouth while I'm sleeping and I have inhaled this toxic mess at times. I usually wake up chocking & coughing & I expell this poison before I drown in it. I have to sleep in my recliner now just to be safe. That is where my life is because of gerd and other stomach problems. I don't get very good sleep as you can imagine.
Also I have thought that probiotics were a scam & did not work. There are so many on the market and the price is so high. I can't believe they work. If you feel they work, please let us know which of the brands work so we don't waste lots of money using brands that don't work.
Hope you get better & let us know what works. Best of all to you & yours for Christmas and the new year.

Have you been to the doctor and sure it is not a gallbladder problem?

I had emergency surgery in Feb. I woke up in the middle of the night and was so very sick.
However, I recognized the symptoms and was sure I must be suffering from a gallbladder
attack. I went straight away to the emergency room and they removed it straight away.

Some of the symptoms can be similar.
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#60 by Delman77 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 21:10

Also hearing, sorry reading,can be vitamins... had, as shopped yesterday you see Fred, a few more carbs today, can't see taken any more than usually do of the 150mg ranitidine pill i break up... so why today do i seem better.. well could be Fred that i ate a bit more, but had few extra carbs today, yet burning much less. Arr, i forgot to take my vitamin C 1000 mg and Vit D 5000 iu and vit B... Stopped the oregano oil for now as well and probotics as i await mastic gum to come from greece... I'm battling on and no way getting me back on darn omperazole again... :). Sorry to hear your suffering Fred, i almost in tears when go shopping at walmart cause like what the heck can i eat, all meat, eggs, slice cheese, great fun without bread and buns standing there like a mouse nibbling on cheese and meat in hand, lol...

Erm, anyway yeah some days better than others, have nuts and spinach and whisps, and eggs and turkey bacon and so on...

If i can do it, go cold turkey you can too Fred, but got to cut carbs down, if they say 300g for man a day and lets say low diet is 50g, got to have 10 to 15 g tops, crazy eh... Erm... lost lot weight, and not that big only belly as it was, so skinny again now like old days...
But cut the carbs, cut anything acid out, and take horrible ranitidine and what not and battle it, cut down, doctors says take the omperazole every other day, i went cold turkey, just stopped, finally, the 4 or was this the 5th time, i got off them, back on to other pills... See how you go, fight on... GBU...

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Update... Could be still bit too early to say cause I am personally always the worse from about 2pm onwards, but much better again today, if it is darn vitamin supplements, i won't be having those kind again, better getting it through food, i swear by organic strawberries actually helps, and they have vit c in, better than spring valley with ascorbic acid in and stearic aicd and says could contain DL-Tartaric acid. Although read vitamin B, think was 6, on line and i have vit B12 given ingredients in them, might be ok to return to taking them. As for vit D, well, cause my higher dose at 5000 iu i am not taking rest of them either from now on.. See how I go... heads up everyone, slowly getting there and gosh if i can lose at a guess 10 to 15 pounds in few weeks you can too, quit the carbs and eat less and bang, there you go...
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