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Can I cut old phone wires?

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#1 by valerie » Thu Dec 06, 2018 16:42

Redoing a wall.

I removed an old phone jack. Actually it wasn't easy to get off. It's not on the
bottom but in the upper area of a wall in the kitchen. So now all that is left is
a slight opening and primarily a red wire and a green wire sticking out.

I want to know if I can cut those wires? I have touched them and they do not
appear to be live. I want to cut them and fill in the area.

Anyone know?
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#2 by tasman1 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 16:52

Yes, you can , no elecricity there
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#3 by valerie » Thu Dec 06, 2018 16:59

Well I got it. I cut them. I think they are totally dead.

What I did was cut them back at different lengths and wrapped them
with a tiny amount of black wire tape. There is 4, red, yellow, white,
black. I was primarily concerned about the red. :mrgreen:

Anyway, I got it done and stuff them back into the wall slot.
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#4 by DannyChiarelli » Thu Dec 06, 2018 18:04

That's what I would have done...
Very low voltage and amperage similar to a 9 volt battery.


Can be disconnected at a box attached to the house.



The fear is (per code) if those wires should ever come in contact with higher voltage/amperage lines,
the current could be carried through the phone line.
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#5 by Darkstar2 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 21:37

Also if not mistaken when the phone rings, higher voltage is sent through (about 90 volts). on hook the voltage wold be around 48VDC, off hook around 9. Whatever you do, make sure you are up to code based on your state / city as far as home wiring is concern, be it no electricity or little electricity, or what not, Might be a good idea to check with your phone company about this on how to dispose of unused wiring. Whatever you do, if you plan on selling your home and you have done work that is not up to code, it can cause you some big headaches down the line if discovered by new owners.
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#6 by tasman1 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 21:57

Darkstar2 wrote: Also if not mistaken when the phone rings, higher voltage is sent through (about 90 volts). on hook the voltage wold be around 48VDC, off hook around 9. Whatever you do, make sure you are up to code based on your state / city as far as home wiring is concern, be it no electricity or little electricity, or what not, Might be a good idea to check with your phone company about this on how to dispose of unused wiring. Whatever you do, if you plan on selling your home and you have done work that is not up to code, it can cause you some big headaches down the line if discovered by new owners.


You are late Darkstar2 , she cut first , she ask once job is done :mrgreen:
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#7 by valerie » Fri Dec 07, 2018 09:18

It is an old landline that has not been used and it was dead.

I had ask here but decided I would look it up myself. In regards to my
situation, I saw it was safe to cut the wires.

Also I read those are low voltage anyway. However, I had already
touched the wires and I knew they were dead.
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#8 by Darkstar2 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 09:20

tasman1 wrote:
Darkstar2 wrote: Also if not mistaken when the phone rings, higher voltage is sent through (about 90 volts). on hook the voltage wold be around 48VDC, off hook around 9. Whatever you do, make sure you are up to code based on your state / city as far as home wiring is concern, be it no electricity or little electricity, or what not, Might be a good idea to check with your phone company about this on how to dispose of unused wiring. Whatever you do, if you plan on selling your home and you have done work that is not up to code, it can cause you some big headaches down the line if discovered by new owners.


You are late Darkstar2 , she cut first , she ask once job is done :mrgreen:

:P Yeah. One thing I'm wondering about, what were those 2 naked wires doing there, shouldn't they be inside a junction box ? One thing in old homes sometimes you have stray wires or a big mess waiting to happen :D Hopefully these were inactive wires or it would not complete the loop, or who knows...... @valerie: Do you have landline phone in your home and are the phones working ? I'm wondering where could those wires be coming from, unless it came from an additional line.....
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#9 by Darkstar2 » Fri Dec 07, 2018 09:25

valerie wrote: It is an old landline that has not been used and it was dead.

I had ask here but decided I would look it up myself. In regards to my
situation, I saw it was safe to cut the wires.

Also I read those are low voltage anyway. However, I had already
touched the wires and I knew they were dead.

Well the fact you are not dead is a good sign :D Though it does not mean the wires are dead, it means there could simply be some current not strong enough to kill you :D or maybe none, there are meters to test electricity, you don't usually touch wires with bare hands :D I read horror stories of old home owners where wires were messed up and some person got electrocuted with 120V through a wire that was hot and live that was normally not supposed to be!
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#10 by valerie » Fri Dec 07, 2018 09:32

@Darkstar2

I removed the box.

Actually, it was 4 wires. Red, Green, Black, Yellow.

No I don't have a landline that is why I removed it.

I have voice with spectrum not to mention a mobile phone too.

At some point in time, someone had a landline in this house. In the
kitchen they obviously had a phone on the wall. I removed the phone
jack (box) from the wall and disconnected the wires.
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#11 by Darkstar2 » Sat Dec 08, 2018 11:58

valerie wrote: @Darkstar2

I removed the box.

Actually, it was 4 wires. Red, Green, Black, Yellow.

No I don't have a landline that is why I removed it.

I have voice with spectrum not to mention a mobile phone too.

At some point in time, someone had a landline in this house. In the
kitchen they obviously had a phone on the wall. I removed the phone
jack (box) from the wall and disconnected the wires.

Oh so you must have what they call Voice over IP, basically phone goes through your internet provider's private network. If it were me I'd leave the phone junction boxes intact with the unused wires, you never know if a future home owner might use landline. I've never liked the idea of VoIP even though I was offered it many times, I like the old fashioned landline it is safer and trusted, and in case of 911 emergencies the VoIP uses an extra intermediary before switching you to the 911 operator, every second counts. I guess nowadays people use their mobile phones and voice over IP, unlike landline, you have to provide 911 dispatch your address so they can manually transfer you to the dispatch closest to your area, whereas with a landline when you call, you automatically reach the correct dispatch center which already has your address info.
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#12 by valerie » Sun Dec 09, 2018 00:24

I seriously doubt anyone will want a landline here, ever. I know I don't and that is
all that matters to me. If for some odd reason that would ever need a landline, it
can easily be installed.

Where I live now, is a small town. I am about two blocks from everything....
including the police station.

I really like the voice service. It's better than landline service. I can call any where
in the USA and then some, without paying long distance charges. It's actually less
cost then a landline. I pay less than $20 a month for Voice. It's clear, no static, no
issues with it at all. Their internet service is excellent too.
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#13 by tasman1 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 15:46

valerie wrote: I seriously doubt anyone will want a landline here, ever. I know I don't and that is
all that matters to me. If for some odd reason that would ever need a landline, it
can easily be installed.

Where I live now, is a small town. I am about two blocks from everything....
including the police station.

I really like the voice service. It's better than landline service. I can call any where
in the USA and then some, without paying long distance charges. It's actually less
cost then a landline. I pay less than $20 a month for Voice. It's clear, no static, no
issues with it at all. Their internet service is excellent too.



Sorry My Lady but no landline and person like me will never buy your home , not all people like new way , I am out
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#14 by valerie » Sun Dec 09, 2018 16:29

I seriously doubt tasman1 that you will be coming to the USA house hunting but
even so, I doubly doubt you would be interested in living in an old coal mining town.

Secondly, I am not selling my house...only just bought this house.

Isn't it funny how topics get way off topic? :lol:
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#15 by Darkstar2 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 19:37

valerie wrote: I seriously doubt tasman1 that you will be coming to the USA house hunting but
even so, I doubly doubt you would be interested in living in an old coal mining town.

Secondly, I am not selling my house...only just bought this house.

Isn't it funny how topics get way off topic? :lol:

That's what makes us UNIQUE :P

Yeah and even if tasman would want to buy your home, installation of landline wiring is simple and won't require tearing down your house :P Even if you cut out your wires in your walls, you still have the demarcation box outside your home, that stays there, so there is already an entrance in your house with the main wires, those can be used anytime to rewire for future generations who will live no your home and want to use such old technology at the time :lol:

But next time ask first cut later it could've been the wrong wire and..........KABOOOOM! :mrgreen:
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#16 by tasman1 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 21:30

Darkstar2 wrote:
valerie wrote: I seriously doubt tasman1 that you will be coming to the USA house hunting but
even so, I doubly doubt you would be interested in living in an old coal mining town.

Secondly, I am not selling my house...only just bought this house.

Isn't it funny how topics get way off topic? :lol:

That's what makes us UNIQUE :P

Yeah and even if tasman would want to buy your home, installation of landline wiring is simple and won't require tearing down your house :P Even if you cut out your wires in your walls, you still have the demarcation box outside your home, that stays there, so there is already an entrance in your house with the main wires, those can be used anytime to rewire for future generations who will live no your home and want to use such old technology at the time :lol:

But next time ask first cut later it could've been the wrong wire and..........KABOOOOM! :mrgreen:


KABOOOOM! ,Croatian translate = Flying Valerie

P.S. Mining town ? what are you doing there Valerie ?
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#17 by valerie » Thu Dec 13, 2018 09:28

It's a small town that was very popular years ago for mineral water.
People would come from every where to drink the water for health.
Some people moved here for the mineral water.

Altho not mountainous, at least not what I would call a mountain,
the town is up some elevation and what I would call hills. So many
years ago, coal and some other minerals were mined here.

I had to down size after my husband passed away. My sister lives
here in this town and she wanted me to move over here and her
husband is not in good health. She lives outside of the town in a
very remote country area. She won't live there if her husband
passes away. So I bought a house here and bought one large
enough so that she can move in with me if he passes away.
There's plenty of room and the house is a nice three bedroom
brick home. There is almost no land to it so not much upkeep
outside.

We have to look to our future when we start getting old. The
town population here is less than 5,000. The bank is only a
few blocks from my house, the dollar store only a few blocks
away, the grocery store only a few blocks away, insurance
office a few blocks away, the park only a few blocks away.
Everything is close and the town is safe and quiet. There is
only 3 houses on my block and mine is one of them. Across
the street is a large open field and only one house and it is
at the end.

It's also a lake area here. Very close to Kentucky Dam and
resort area. Many people that live here now are people that
like to live in a resort area, fish, boating, camping, hunting, etc.

This house was built in the 1970's and it is a nice house but
some things I am updating.
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#18 by tasman1 » Sat Dec 15, 2018 15:37

valerie wrote: It's a small town that was very popular years ago for mineral water.
People would come from every where to drink the water for health.
Some people moved here for the mineral water.

Altho not mountainous, at least not what I would call a mountain,
the town is up some elevation and what I would call hills. So many
years ago, coal and some other minerals were mined here.

I had to down size after my husband passed away. My sister lives
here in this town and she wanted me to move over here and her
husband is not in good health. She lives outside of the town in a
very remote country area. She won't live there if her husband
passes away. So I bought a house here and bought one large
enough so that she can move in with me if he passes away.
There's plenty of room and the house is a nice three bedroom
brick home. There is almost no land to it so not much upkeep
outside.

We have to look to our future when we start getting old. The
town population here is less than 5,000. The bank is only a
few blocks from my house, the dollar store only a few blocks
away, the grocery store only a few blocks away, insurance
office a few blocks away, the park only a few blocks away.
Everything is close and the town is safe and quiet. There is
only 3 houses on my block and mine is one of them. Across
the street is a large open field and only one house and it is
at the end.

It's also a lake area here. Very close to Kentucky Dam and
resort area. Many people that live here now are people that
like to live in a resort area, fish, boating, camping, hunting, etc.

This house was built in the 1970's and it is a nice house but
some things I am updating.



Sounds just perfect but only in normal world , not here
Only 5000 people here in Australia and you have nothing , maybe just few corner shops with huge cost , no hospital , only primary school , 1 or 2 doctors , maybe and so on and on , nothing , nobody invest in small place in Australia , they are forgoten

Tasmania is good example , with just 500 000 [ half million ] people and all prices 30-50% up compared to rest of Australia
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#19 by Nikorj » Sat Dec 15, 2018 16:43

valerie wrote: It's a small town that was very popular years ago for mineral water.
People would come from every where to drink the water for health.
Some people moved here for the mineral water.

Altho not mountainous, at least not what I would call a mountain,
the town is up some elevation and what I would call hills. So many
years ago, coal and some other minerals were mined here.

I had to down size after my husband passed away. My sister lives
here in this town and she wanted me to move over here and her
husband is not in good health. She lives outside of the town in a
very remote country area. She won't live there if her husband
passes away. So I bought a house here and bought one large
enough so that she can move in with me if he passes away.
There's plenty of room and the house is a nice three bedroom
brick home. There is almost no land to it so not much upkeep
outside.

We have to look to our future when we start getting old. The
town population here is less than 5,000. The bank is only a
few blocks from my house, the dollar store only a few blocks
away, the grocery store only a few blocks away, insurance
office a few blocks away, the park only a few blocks away.
Everything is close and the town is safe and quiet. There is
only 3 houses on my block and mine is one of them. Across
the street is a large open field and only one house and it is
at the end.

It's also a lake area here. Very close to Kentucky Dam and
resort area. Many people that live here now are people that
like to live in a resort area, fish, boating, camping, hunting, etc.

This house was built in the 1970's and it is a nice house but
some things I am updating.

Sounds lovely compared to cold, Gray, Dark Copenhagen where it rains all the bloody time.

Everyone's complaining, And when summertime arrives we will also complain about that!!

Scandinavians on holiday are very easy to spot, Just look for those with a skin color of a lobster ;)
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#20 by valerie » Sat Dec 15, 2018 19:57

Quote:Scandinavians on holiday are very easy to spot, Just look for those with a skin color of a lobster ;)

hahahahahaaaaha! :lol:
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