Now a days the forum is always with complaints of disqualifications from different survey companies.It is true that disqualifications in the middle of the surveys are frustrating but we should also be thankful to the opportunities these companies provide. It is dubious to think that all surveys should be successful,The success of the survey depends on several factors like profile, region, LOI, gender, and many others. Clicksense provides the same survey through different survey companies and the same survey cannot be completed many times and disqualifications occur.It is not the fault of survey companies like samplicio or sample cube,it is due to the way the survey is set up or how we respond to it.We should learn to be happy with whatever opportunities we get from these companies. it is really pity that even some senior members respond negatively towards disqualifications forgetting the benefits they earned from these companies.

rajukurup wrote: Now a days the forum is always with complaints of disqualifications from different survey companies.It is true that disqualifications in the middle of the surveys are frustrating but we should also be thankful to the opportunities these companies provide. It is dubious to think that all surveys should be successful,The success of the survey depends on several factors like profile, region, LOI, gender, and many others. Clicksense provides the same survey through different survey companies and the same survey cannot be completed many times and disqualifications occur.It is not the fault of survey companies like samplicio or sample cube,it is due to the way the survey is set up or how we respond to it.We should learn to be happy with whatever opportunities we get from these companies. it is really pity that even some senior members respond negatively towards disqualifications forgetting the benefits they earned from these companies.

Here's the thing - YES it is true that these companies provide opportunity - but please remember, that these same companies earn millions of $ from the data we provide, from our hard work we get paid cents for. I have first hand experience with the industry as I worked in it, luckily for legit firms, the data collected from said surveys is a gold mine, and without naming any specific network or affiliates in respect for CS and rules, I know for a FACT that there is more to those surveys than people know - the monetizing that happens with all the profiles and data and used by these networks, we are talking BIG money, so please try to look at both sides of the coin. I think many of the complaints are valid and warranted, and people who worked hard over the years and kept loyal have the privilege of pointing out the negative sides. It is one thing to disqualify from surveys - I have worked in the industry and actually helped build questionnaires - it is VERY unethical and unusual for a survey to disqualify an individual at the END or middle of a survey, unless you are in a screener or pre-screener. The rare exceptions are multi path / branching which causes off quota, bot that is another story..... CLOSED surveys or surveys that reached quota in all strats should be REMOVED!!! There are plenty of off quota surveys still pushing, where you have contributors going through 5+ minutes of screening, or sometimes the whole survey only to be told that the survey is closed or not accepting new answers. Not only is this unethical but I believe people have a right to complain about this situation.

Should I be thankful to these companies ? Well I am to some extent but let's not get overly optimistic, yes I am thankful to SOMETHING is better than NOTHING - BUT who should be more thankful ? With my data and hard work over the years I have probably contributed to someone making several multiples of my earnings - I am talking mainly advertisers, marketers, survey researchers......In return, these companies should set up a proper platform, remove the CLOSED surveys, set up the survey scripts in a proper way where qualifications are determined in the beginning and not in the middle or end of a survey...... Disqualifying for surveys has never been an issue to me, when a survey is legit - but I can spot a bogus survey a mile away, there are routers that employ data collection and ask questions totally unrelated to surveys only to redirect you back with a DQ, these were never surveys to begin with. I can spot those a mile away. Appreciative yes, but when there are unethical situations I will also point them out - being senior or not has nothing to do, these companies are living lavish lifestyles on our data, I think we have the PRIVILEGE to complain , when factual, when warranted and when backed up with good arguments.

A community is where you can express opinions both positive and negative. I have been doing tasks and surveys for far long before I joined this site, so this decline that I see in the surveys industry is not out of my imagination. One thing I will always be thankful to mostly is to CS for being an honest site for giving more compared to any other site I know. Some sites take away more than 50% fees !

NOW there are people with no opportunities or very little who also complain, should they have any less privilege to complain ? NO.........it is never a pleasant feeling to continually work and get rejection. I truly wish there was an opportunity for everyone (every HONEST contributor).

That said, it's good from time to time to also provide credit where do, and point out the good surveys and experiences.

Thank you Darkstar for your positive attitude towards clicksense. It is not necessary to do the surveys if you think they are making profit of your data; then why should we work here in clicksense ,where the main income is from surveys. Clicksense benefits and in turn we benefit from these survey companies. It is a fact that without benefits no work will be a success. Some get more benefits than others,. fraud surveys may be there but as of my experience only very few are of such type.Here you have much opportunities and if responded intelligently can earn good amount.No other online site than clicksene is honest- ;'I would preach'.,and feel proud to do so for the success of clicksense; whoever mock at me

rajukurup wrote: Thank you Darkstar for your positive attitude towards clicksense. It is not necessary to do the surveys if you think they are making profit of your data; then why should we work here in clicksense ,where the main income is from surveys. Clicksense benefits and in turn we benefit from these survey companies. It is a fact that without benefits no work will be a success. Some get more benefits than others,. fraud surveys may be there but as of my experience only very few are of such type.Here you have much opportunities and if responded intelligently can earn good amount.No other online site than clicksene is honest- ;'I would preach'.,and feel proud to do so for the success of clicksense; whoever mock at me

True - and this is a FACT, but this is not the main complaint. ALL we do is profit to someone else, this has never been an issue to me. When we are hired to work for someone we are making them richer.......when we pay taxes, we contribute to government's lavish lifestyle and worry free retirement, etc. I was just giving an example. And yes, my complaints have never been towards CS, as I fully trust CS, with the level of service they have provided to us, they DO deserve to be successful and make good money, in return they provide a good platform, good support, and good opportunities, so my complaints have always been towards the 3rd parties, warranted in all cases. Telling people who complain with reason to stop doing surveys is unhelpful and counterproductive. There are not many earning opportunities out there, so for some of us, we work with what we have, we are expected to not lie and cheat, and we are expected QUALITY data to surveys, so in return I'm sure we have the privilege of complaining when unethical practices are observed on the part of those market researchers. I have nothing against market researchers making money off of me, but the least they can do is provide some level of service and ethical practices. If a survey is closed, it is the duty of the project manager, who's salary is likely in the high 5 figures, to promptly remove the survey from the inventory - We are talking about ethics and principles here and FACTS.

As far as my views on ClixSense they have not changed, top earning site for me - it is unfortunate some of the events that happened, PayPal, PTC removal, etc, but these situations are clearly not in the control of the owner. Some sites charge 40-50% or more fees for the same survey offers. Unfortunately, ClixSense relies heavily on 3rd parties, the more opportunities are available and successful the more CS is a success. The amount of networks / affiliation sites CS can use is very limited, I know that, as far as tasks, to my knowledge only CrowdFlower / Figure Eight can be used, remove that from the equation and things would be much more difficult for site owners / GPT sites.

Let's talk business now - what happens when these 3rd parties reduce their offering, reduce their level of service, and the amount of bogus surveys and issues increase.......more people will quit - do these companies care ? They should but don't because they have a lifetime residual income - who suffers in the end ? Honest site owners like CS. understandably, CS cannot do anything about 3rd parties, but complaints can be helpful too. If a specific PROJECT ID or TASK JOB ID is problematic, it is a good gesture to warn others about it, it would help avoid other contributors wasting their time on bad tasks and offers and move to the next one, this is what a community is for helping one another - this is the foundation of another big forum used for another tasking site starting with m and ending with k, they have an entire forum dedicated to exposing both good and bad task authors, it is of great service to the community. If nobody has a VOICE and complains and only says positive things, changes never happen !

Complaints can sometimes be useful and helpful when warranted, factual and backed up with facts. or they can simply be venting frustration - will it stop other people from working on survey or turn them away ? NOPE. Whenever there is money to be made, people will stick around. Has the situation with Figure Eight's unfair tasks, flagging, etc, stopped people from tasking ? NO.....despite all the complaints.

I do not believe in censorship - everyone has a voice - Maybe it might be unfair for newly joined members to complain right away when they barely made 10 attempts, that is understandable, but when it comes from veteran contributors who have worked very hard and contributed tons to the site, community and accomplished a lot of work, I'm sure they have earned the privilege by now.

Yes the disqualifications by surveys are strange these days also. First there was a one which was to join a community. Surprisingly I got qualified for the community but the survey disqualified me. Also one survey just redirected me to a google search page than to a clixsense page which may be a disqualification, a quota full or a qualified message.

In India we still have young college students who are employed part time by survey company's to carryout surveys,they are given copies of printed format of a survey to be conducted all they have to do is go home to home or to place of work and carryout surveys as given to them in the printed questionair fill up the answers ,they have to pass tests in a survey agency to qualify for the part time job,if they qualify they are paid an fixed amount for every questionair completed,all questionairs are reviewed by the employer agency if they find any irregularities its disposed off as fake and the person employed is not paid for the questionair,we sit at home or in an office and give answers and get nothing everyone involved in the process can leave anytime they feel dissatisfied they cannot complain to the survey company but you are already told the conditions for taking up the job there is no room for complain you can leave that's the only option here a person carrying out the survey also makes an physical effort to get an job done,here we sit at the comfort of our home in front of a computer and give answers and have loads of dissatisfaction,frustration you are doing it at your own will and convenience there should be no room for frustration you have the option to stop doing it no one is forcing you.

Arvind9 wrote: In India we still have young college students who are employed part time by survey company's to carryout surveys,they are given copies of printed format of a survey to be conducted all they have to do is go home to home or to place of work and carryout surveys as given to them in the printed questionnaire fill up the answers ,they have to pass tests in survey agency to qualify for the part time job,if they qualify they are paid an fixed amount for every questionnaire completed,all questionnaires are reviewed by the employer agency if they find any irregularities its disposed off as fake and the person employed is not paid for the questionnaire,we sit at home or in an office and give answers and get nothing everyone involved in the process can leave anytime they feel dissatisfied they can complain to the survey company but you are already told the conditions for taking up the job there is no room for complain you can leave that's the only option here a person carrying out the survey also makes an physical effort to get an job done,here we sit at the comfort of our home in front of a computer and give answers and have loads of dissatisfaction,frustration you are doing it at your own will and convenience there should be no room for frustration you have the option to stop doing it no one is forcing you.

That I´m afraid is not comparable. If this is the normal procedure in India so be it.Most offered surveys at the sites do screen our credentials before participation to a survey. if one does not belong to the target group you will not qualify. However, if one qualifies he or she should be able to work on and finish the survey without any shenanigans.

India is a country where huge unemployment are there and so many companies exploit people like slaves. So that is not the right comparison for this. Opinion may be there and may not be acceptable to you but you have to respect other persons opinion. Do not close your eyes and live.

You have not understood what I was trying to imply although there is no qualification process we still answer surveys at own will and convenience for nothing,one can always refuse ,you are sitting at the comfort of your house and doing it at your will if you feel dissatisfied you have the option to leave you are not being forced.

Yes no one is forcing us but many have their own opinions and experiences. They are just sharing their experiences and not complaining. Even surveys are expressing our opinions.

No one is stopping you from voicing your opinion,if you have no complaints then there is no issue.

Arvind9 wrote: You have not understood what I was trying to imply although there is no qualification process we still answer surveys at own will and convenience for nothing,one can always refuse ,you are sitting at the comfort of your house and doing it at your will if you feel dissatisfied you have the option to leave you are not being forced.

I understand that but I´m talking about the credibility of surveys offered to members (worldwide), again when one qualifies and is invited to work and participate on a survey one simply should not encounter what we encounter on a daily basis, which are sudden disqualifications (in the middle or at the end of the survey) or sudden full quotas, just to name a few.
I understand that this can happen from time to time but not on the scale we experience it nowadays.

Do you have a way of stopping what is unfair,let's get your opinion I will support you,we are all here just giving our opinion even if a survey provider is reading these posts he understands you will still continue,if you leave discontent there are others who will stay despite the issues,either way they still gain.

Arvind9 wrote: Do you have a way of stopping what is unfair,let's get your opinion I will support you.

Yes , altogether not opening any surveys for a while , but that is an utopia, so i.o.w NO!!!

suraraj wrote: Yes the disqualifications by surveys are strange these days also. First there was a one which was to join a community. Surprisingly I got qualified for the community but the survey disqualified me. Also one survey just redirected me to a google search page than to a clixsense page which may be a disqualification, a quota full or a qualified message.

Very good point you bring there, this is another issue I have seen. There are bait and switch, dishonest tactics employed by advertisers to get traffic. This is one of them - Bogus surveys you can never qualify or get paid to, they then redirect you to the actual panel for you to sign up an account with. The initial survey qualifies you and invites you to join a panel, a 3rd party panel, so you think that by joining this panel you will get paid an incentive from the initial survey.......in some cases no, you will have wasted your time to sign up to a panel, fill out long profilers, and not get paid by the original router survey that redirected you there. They get sign-ups for FREE and do not pay you, this not only is fraud but unlawful - you are not getting pay for service rendered. This is NOT the same thing as disqualifying, this is one of many examples of fraud sign-up scams, where you are promised an incentive for completing a sign-up but never receive it, in such cases you have qualified for the screener, survey AND successfully joined the panel and fulfilled all your obligations. It is very normal that people will complain and expose such blatant attempts. Yes everyone has the free will to STOP, nobody is being forced, but this does not mean that unethical tactics should go unexposed - Opinions should be respected either way good or bad. Do not compare actual jobs with what we are doing here online, it is not the same thing. There are many deceptive and fraudulent tactics used by offer walls and surveys - BUT there are also many good and legit surveys, which is the reason why that some of us, including myself are still here completing surveys, BUT along the line if I come across some deceptive, fraudulent and unlawful tactics I will expose them.

suraraj wrote: India is a country where huge unemployment are there and so many companies exploit people like slaves. So that is not the right comparison for this. Opinion may be there and may not be acceptable to you but you have to respect other persons opinion. Do not close your eyes and live.

Words of wisdom ! Imagine by this logic if every people writing a negative review online were told to just stop using that airline carrier, just stop going to that restaurant, nobody is forcing them, or just stop having an opinion, there is no logic in this and this is very unhealthy to engage in such habits.

Arvind9 wrote: You have not understood what I was trying to imply although there is no qualification process we still answer surveys at own will and convenience for nothing,one can always refuse ,you are sitting at the comfort of your house and doing it at your will if you feel dissatisfied you have the option to leave you are not being forced.

I think what people, including myself, are unhappy about is not the actual opportunity, it is specific situations that occur. Sure, I could stop at any time, I have free will, nobody is forcing me, however, it does not mean that I should not have an opinion, good or bad. Luckily the opportunity allowed me to earn money here which I am and always will be grateful for, however, I have the privilege of exposing unethical situations and complain about them, everyone has the same privilege, and yes if this situation grew and became to a level where it is consistent and continual I would certainly stop, whether I stop o continue will not change the fact I am entitled to share my point of view.

What is good with this community here is how we are given this amazing privilege to voice them, good or bad. Some other platform, providers that have forum do not provide this privilege, where you would constantly be under threat and legal threat from community leaders, account closures, topic locking, flagged posts. Bashing upon senior members who have worked so hard and contributed quite a lot over the years because of their negative opinions and complaints is quite unhealthy to be honest - if not for the few vocal over opinionated individuals in this industry, change would never have happened. There are people who just like to PRAISE all the time or remain quiet by fear of repercussion - they are contributing NOTHING to change in society. Those however with a voice, contribute to change the most ! They might not always be popular and be frowned upon by those who misunderstand them, but the pros outweigh the cons.

People should not confused complaints and not being thankful, nobody is complaining about the opportunity itself, but mainly the target are SPECIFIC cases of unethical practices, and sorry to say but this trend has grown considerably in the tasks and surveys industry, and this has been noticed not only by myself but many, should those of us with a negative opinion just STOP and consequently just stop having a voice ?

Silence is gold, says the proverb, but silence = status quo. Positive change never happens from silence. Some people who praise and who are silent are benefiting from the hard labour of those who worked hard and had a voice and made big changes happen. I am not talking about here necessarily but other places.

So when we see injustice, unfairness, we should just STOP, brush it off and move on right ? This is not how society works, or people would have quit their jobs long ago. People want to work, earn money, and some people work hard and with integrity, they have just the same rights to complain when something happens.

I know how the survey world works, having worked in the industry. I WILL complain if I take a 35 minute survey to which I fully qualified for and answered honestly, with integrity, only to be told that the survey is closed at the *END* and not get paid. This is a SPECIFIC experience, so should I just STOP ? No, I'm not a quitter, however, if I see that the situation happens consistently over time and it has become unhealthy, I will, meanwhile I will expose if I deem necessary such instances of bad behaviour from specific market researchers in hopes that it helps others make an informed decision to avoid specific projects so that other people do not get into the same situation - People do the same in the tasks section all the time, expose good tasks, and expose / warn against bad tasks. Some people c omplain they received flags from tasks or that there are bad tasks, do you think it is appropriate to tell them just stop doing tasks if you are unhappy ? It is counterproductive in society, and on open communities.

If I RECEIVE an invitation to do a survey, I will complete it based on the terms provided to me. This constitutes a legally binding agreement between 2 parties - I am to receive a paid incentive for service rendered. I complete a survey fully as per terms and do not get payment, this constitutes a breach of contract. Believe me if I were to complain each time I come across a situation like this there would be hundreds of topics here - I brush it off and move on to the next survey - however if I see that a trend is growing and it is becoming more frequent I will complain about it. I speak for myself, but I'm sure other people in the same situation would not appreciate being told to stop complaining or just stop / quit if they are unhappy.

Cheers

josealvesjr wrote:

Arvind9 wrote: Do you have a way of stopping what is unfair,let's get your opinion I will support you.

Yes , altogether not opening any surveys for a while , but that is an utopia, so i.o.w NO!!!

This is hardly effective - what we CAN do collectively as a community is continue what we are doing, surveys and tasks, BUT, we can stop encouraging the bad task authors and bad surveys, and how can we do this ? By exposing the bad situations. If task authors notice that nobody is working on their tasks, they will get the message and incentive to act and revise their instructions or their ways of flagging contributors for no valid reasons, or fix unfair corrections. But as long as people just continue working and supporting bad authors, they will continue their ways. Same for surveys, if the bad ones are exposed, it will help people not lose time and focus on those surveys that are legit.

I think some people are confusing here, one should never be upset and complain about being disqualified, this is expected. The majority of your attempts will be DQ. What is NOT normal is getting a DQ after fully completing the survey when you have been fully honest, did not cheat, and passed all QC checks. I often see days where I have 40-50 invites on my list, where a majority of them are closed surveys - why on earth are these surveys still pushed, they should be removed from inventory !!!! If I were to code a survey script, quota checks would be performed early in the survey, not the END of the survey.......so these are the situations people including myself are complaining about because they are becoming more common.

Mahatma Gandhi who in a speech in South Africa in 1890 said: "A customer is the most important visitor on our premises. He is not dependent on us. We are dependent on him. He is not an interruption of our work. He is the purpose of it. He is not an outsider of our business. He is part of it. We are not doing him a favor by serving him. He is doing us a favor by giving us the opportunity to do so."

suraraj wrote: India is a country where huge unemployment are there and so many companies exploit people like slaves. So that is not the right comparison for this. Opinion may be there and may not be acceptable to you but you have to respect other persons opinion. Do not close your eyes and live.

What rubbish are you speaking. Here people are expressing their opinions . If you have any bias remove that .opinions of other people may be different from you and you have a feeling that only your opinions are exact .This forum is a place for arguments and people may contradict you and you should not think that they are insulting you. Here people do respect others opinions, so such contradictions arise and it is taken in a positive way and not as viewed by you. So open your eyes and give importance to contradictory comments also; as people have different mindset and attitude from yours

Arvind9 wrote: You have not understood what I was trying to imply although there is no qualification process we still answer surveys at own will and convenience for nothing,one can always refuse ,you are sitting at the comfort of your house and doing it at your will if you feel dissatisfied you have the option to leave you are not being forced.

This an exact opinion, because no one is forcing anyone to do surveys.We all work here at our own will with comfort and our own time schedule. If you feel dissatisfied you can stop working.that's all

Darkstar2 wrote:

josealvesjr wrote:

Arvind9 wrote: Do you have a way of stopping what is unfair,let's get your opinion I will support you.

Yes , altogether not opening any surveys for a while , but that is an utopia, so i.o.w NO!!!

This is hardly effective - what we CAN do collectively as a community is continue what we are doing, surveys and tasks, BUT, we can stop encouraging the bad task authors and bad surveys, and how can we do this ? By exposing the bad situations. If task authors notice that nobody is working on their tasks, they will get the message and incentive to act and revise their instructions or their ways of flagging contributors for no valid reasons, or fix unfair corrections. But as long as people just continue working and supporting bad authors, they will continue their ways. Same for surveys, if the bad ones are exposed, it will help people not lose time and focus on those surveys that are legit.

I think some people are confusing here, one should never be upset and complain about being disqualified, this is expected. The majority of your attempts will be DQ. What is NOT normal is getting a DQ after fully completing the survey when you have been fully honest, did not cheat, and passed all QC checks. I often see days where I have 40-50 invites on my list, where a majority of them are closed surveys - why on earth are these surveys still pushed, they should be removed from inventory !!!! If I were to code a survey script, quota checks would be performed early in the survey, not the END of the survey.......so these are the situations people including myself are complaining about because they are becoming more common.

These disqualifications come because
the survey companies target a required number of participants . and when the target is met you get disqualified, either because you attempted the survey late or or required participants of your profile have been met.Everyone here who work hard faces it ;need not bother much about it. Think positively of the surveys completed successfully. This is my view ,others may disagree