Hello and welcome to the forum!

A lot has happen in a relatively short period of time on the net.

It's very interesting to look back and then see where it's at today.

As long as it's viable, I am sure it will be here. As long as there is advertisers and members utilizing it.

No doubt, as they have proven already, they will stay updated with the times, improve and implement
as needed.

I don't know if it is a personal attack or what.

Maybe he is wanting a list of people that hire me.

I do consulting work. I do large advertising campaigns for companies. I own several programs.
What else do I do? I do affiliate resales. I focus a lot of my time with cash back shopping. I
focus a lot of attention in the free to earn industry. I publicized an ezine for several years. I
owned the very first LLC coffee company online with all the bells and whistles...sold over 1000
types of gourmet coffee, plus gourmet teas, plus coffee machinery....oh and gourmet cookies.
I've been a member in a major MLM program for 8 years, another MLM program for about 4 years,
another MLM program for 2 years.

I also volunteer my time at this forum.

I wear size 12 in jeans. I'm 5 foot 7. I'm 55 years old. I have 3 children and several grand
children.

Most importantly, I don't pry into other peoples business.

I guess that is what you get for doing your own thinking.

I was hired to moderate one of his forums. Recently he launched a new bux program and ask if I could
moderate it too, I agreed.

I have not heard of anyone not being paid by either one of the programs in which I moderate the forums of.
Since I do moderate at those two forums, I am sure I would have read the complaints if there was any.

Are you saying they stole your money?

And what has that got to do with ClixSense?

I have dedicated servers but still, it's a big problem with bounce backs. Not all, but most yahoo and hotmail addresses bounce. The longer you have the domain, when sending receiving emails thru it on the servers, the more it tends to block you. One would think it would be opposite, but nope.

That's what they all say....they'll say they don't have any problem with their yahoo account and that they receive all their email.

WOW! Congratulations!

TIP 1

One thing you need to do before joining anything is to make sure you have a good free email account. One if not The best today is gmail.com. If you use yahoo, you'll lose. If you use hotmail, you'll lose. If you use a cutesy email account, you'll lose. If you use any email account in which the sender must confirm, you'll lose.

The reason you lose is because you never know what you missed. I've had people tell me that they know they receive all their email. I'd like to know what crystal ball they have because I'd like to have one. The fact of the matter is, they don't know and there is no way they could know. It's also very obvious to those that have worked online for any length of time, hotmail is notorious for deleting in mid air, millions of emails per day. It's also obvious that yahoo can be very slow, even take days for a message to arrive to it's destination and many bounce right back to the sender. Obviously, those email accounts in which the sender must confirm by clicking a link, when they send an email, is not going to work because most people are not going to click a link.

Let's just say you either joined something, ask something, submitted something, told someone something...and now that person sends you an email...but you never get it. Maybe they are looking for a ClixSense sponsor. Maybe they saw your ad about something and want to ask you about it. Guess what...you are using a crappy email account and you never receive it...congrats, you just lost money...and possibly, a lot of it.

The first rule of thumb...Make Sure You Use a Free Solid Email Account and never take for granted someone received what you sent and/vice vera.

TIP 2

Detecting programs that are scams or a waste of time is not always easy. It's kind of funny if you have ever read the ads or saw the pages in which they say something like 'A Million Members Can't Be Wrong'. I'm here to tell you, YES a million members can be wrong. Should you join something that is in PRE-LAUNCH or should you join something that may have a million members that can't be wrong? Well, firstly if you are using a good free email account, and the program is free to join and check out, and you don't have to relay any private information, then there is probably no harm in joining it.

What can you do further to know if a program is worth handing your money over? Or maybe, you really don't want to bother with joining a program whether it is free or not unless you know it's legit. Do you simply read everything online that tells you it is a scam and agree with it? Do you read everything online that tells you it's legit and agree with it?

It's past time for YOU to take action and YOU do the research and DON'T relay solely on what other people tell you.

A - Know who owns the program. That is ALWAYS the first question I ask. Who owns it? If someone comes back and says Phil Piccolo owns it, I would not touch it with a ten foot pole! If no one can answer that question and there is no information about who owns it on the site (and I don't mean the 'we are a group of marketers' bs), that is RED FLAG number 1.

B - Who Is the people or person that owns it? Maybe there is info on the site in regards to who owns it. But you have never heard of the name before. Now what? You're going to need to go digging. Go to at least two search engines such as google and yahoo. Some times you'll dig something up on yahoo that you don't see on google. Type in that owners name, city, country...whatever amount info you have. Find out what credentials that owner has. Does he come up in the search engines as having a legitimate business? Is there a lot of good information about the owner? Or is there a lot of bad information about the owner....if there is a lot of bad info this is RED FLAG number 2.

C - It's a good idea to always check WHO IS to find out who owns the domain but maybe even more importantly, is HOW LONG have they owned the domain. Even tho the who is may not always relay the owners information (they may have set their domain details to private which is not always a red flag, by the way), it will relay the purchase date and/or renewal date of the domain. This can be very important information. Does the info on the site say something like 'We have worked on this program development for 5 long years and spent $50,000 creating it'? Well it would certainly be kind of odd to find the domain name was just purchased yesterday if they have spent 5 years and 50 grand developing it....RED FLAG number 3.

D - What if there is no information at all that can be found as to who owns it? You have red flags don't you? If A, B, and C are red flags, you don't have any green flags. You're going to have to dig further. Do searches about the program and see what others are saying. But don't take a whole lot to heart as to what just anyone says. Try to locate someone reputable that has experience and ask them. If you see someone like 'MLM WATCHDOG' placing bad info about it, well, it's most likely a big .... RED FLAG number 4.

E - Shabby is as Shabby does. What does the program site look like? Is there TOS and POLICIES? Is the site relaying their products and/or services? Is there information about how the program works exactly? Is there contact information? Have you contacted them? How long did it take to receive a reply? Is their payment information on site and what ways do they accept payment and what ways do they payout commissions? Does the product or service offered, make sense for the price point quoted? Just recently from this typing, I am seeing a lot of advertising for a program in pre-launch and I could not begin to tell you how many people have sent it to me....a lot. Did I join? Nope. Why not? Because there is no information on the site to amount to a hill of beans and because it plainly states a link that goes to a program that sells prelaunch sites. Hey, anyone can throw up a prelaunch site! Therefore, if the site is shabby looking, relays no information about what it is, what product or service it will be offering, what it costs, etc etc etc...RED FLAG number 5.

There are a lot of RED FLAGS out there for many programs. I would not hesitate to say, most programs have many red flags waving. Oddly, most people don't see them. IF a program is really good, believe me, GREEN FLAGS will be waving all over the place. As for that 'hurry up and join' gizmo, well, that is up to you. But if all you are finding is red flags, you may want to take caution and simply not join. After all, if a program is good, there will be green flags and if a program turns out to be good, it won't really matter so much when you join it, it will still be there and you can still be successful with it no matter when you join it.

TIP 3 - A fool and his money are soon departed. You do know yourself, don't you? When should you hand your money over? Math Math Math..ALWAYS do the MATH. Then look at what you can do and what you will do. Know thy self. If the math is there, it makes sense, all the numbers are correct, looks like profit can be made, green flags are waving....should you hand over your money? Well, let's see if you know yourself:

a - I am going to work this program. I mean, I am going to WORK this program.
b - I am not going to work this program. I will rely on spillover. I'll let others do the work.

a - I have enough money to hand over. It won't hurt me if I lose.
b - I am short on cash. If I hand over my money, I won't be able to feed my family this week.

a - If it does not do well for me, I gave it my all, I gave it my best, I won't be disappointed for trying.
b - This better work for me or I am going to scream scam all over the place.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of b type people out there. Never think you'll make money simply by relying on others. Leverage is great, team work is wonderful, but you cannot ever rely on others. Never give over money that you need. You can't risk money that you need to feed your family or pay for your meds or pay your bills...those are things that come first so don't risk what you don't have. If the program is solid and it did not work for you, maybe it's because you did not work for it. Don't go screaming scam just because you were not successful with it. Chalk it up as a learning experience and get over it.

TIP 4 - Longevity. Longevity alone is not always the greatest thing to rely on but it does say a lot. The longer a program exists online, the more information you can get about the program. And if the program has been online a long time, you will probably locate some negatives about it. However, the positives should far out weight the negatives. If the program has been online a short period of time, you need to really REALLY take a strong look at it and see if it is something that has the POTENTIAL for LONGEVITY. I think a big problem people have is joining fly by nights. They join a program, promote it, and the next thing you know the program is gone. That may not mean the program is a scam, it may just mean the program ran it's course and that is it, over, finite, nada, gone, done, poofers! You want longevity and as much of it as you can get. That's one very BIG reason I love ClixSense...longevity, longevity, longevity. My time is NEVER wasted at or on ClixSense. Think about it...you join program after program after program and you focus on them and the next thing you know, they are all gone. What about the time you spent? What about the money you spent? What about the pages you created? Instead, you could have chosen longevity, you could have focused on what will be around for years, you could be creating content pages, everything you do with that longevity program could be soaring higher and higher in the search engines and everything you do to promote is another source that may stay out there for years...gaining you referrals on autopilot. Don't focus on short term programs because when you do, you are constantly starting over and over and over and wasting your time, not to mention perhaps, money.

Kind of funny rubygees.
I do think there is still laws in place in various states within the USA that when a person is missing for set amount of years, they will be considered legally dead. The cases vary.

It's good the sponsor has sponsored you even if the sponsor no longer exists or the sponsor is inactive or the sponsor does not allow contact. The fact remains, someone, some how, some where, relayed ClixSense to you. You would not be here other wise.

So in reality the sponsor does not matter other than bringing you into an excellent program.

If you need help, there is a forum right here and also the support ticket system.

Hello and Welcome aboard!

Yes, free members get paid.

PayPal can be very dirty alright. It does not take much for them to shut you down, almost doesn't take anything.
It just depends on what customer support person decides to look at your account that day and what mood he is in.

I know nothing about that site above, just giving my two cents on PP.

There is a total difference in ClixSense and anything similar, compared to programs like bux sites and neobux.

ClixSense is a REAL advertising network that pays it's members for viewing adverts.
They offer the premium membership which does a whole lot more than what members may first think about.
Advertisers want people that buy. I mean you certainly would not try and sell ice to an eskimo. He don't
need ice so he is not going to buy ice. Same goes with the premium memberships. There are advertisers
that sell something in which people must buy to get that something...so the advertiser wants people that
are known buyers.

Bux sites and yes, even neobux, is not a real advertising network in the sense of the word.
They are INVESTMENT programs. Many of them charge a lot of money too in order to upgrade to the
worthy option. Then they sell referrals or rent referrals and it's like a box of chocolates...mostly stale
chocolates at that, you don't know what you'll get. Some members of these types of programs will
relay what they make but they don't relay what they spent in their adverts. There are people out there
that will spend thousands of dollars, maybe not all at once, but before they know it, they have spent
a lot of money for upgrades and referrals..so when these people say they have made $10,000 that is
great, but did they spend $20,000 to make it? That is the question and that is the big difference.

Well, they are the same company buldan75. ClixSense owns ClixSenseResearch.
But they are entirely separate from the other and of course, entirely different.

tasjon knows. Another long timer.

There will always be inactives. Always.

There is one thing that I have never been able to pin point in all my years working online.
I can guess, but I can't really pin point it down to a specific.

That one thing is.....why is it that people come online and want to make money, give up
so very quickly....why is it they will get up at 5am, shower, get ready for work, get in a
cold car, drive perhaps 30 or more miles to work, punch a time clock, leave 8 hours later,
get back in a cold car, drive back home, and then wish they could make some extra money...
wish they had a different life...wish wish wish...but then they get online, join everything
under the sun and give up before they even get started?

Well, like I said, I have it some what figured out and it is a bad thing in one big way.

People have a very difficult time being their own boss. They want to be told exactly what
to do, when to do, and where to do it. I see this at every turn online.

The bad part about that is, not everyone is going to be your boss online. Another very
bad part is, there is a lot of bad boss's out there.

Instead, what people need to do is be their own boss online. They need to be in control,
not have anything or anyone else online control them. They need to do their research
for themselves and read. Any questions they have, they need to ask and get answers.

When you go start a new job, usually you have a training period. You are shown the
building, the rooms in the building, where you will be working, what job you will be doing.
Often you may even have some new employee classes to attend. You may have several
weeks of training or more. In fact, many places will not allow you to go on their insurance
plans, vacation plans, various benefits, until you have worked there for 3 months or more.

Take that same person, put him online to make money, and he expects to sign up and
place an ad or two, and see the money roll in. It truly does not work that way, if you
want to make money and long term residuals, it is work, and you have to keep on
promoting, keep on referring, focus on those that do and not those that don't. It will
pay off for you and it's a whole lot better and easier, than getting in that cold car.

I don't remember exactly what the pay was years ago.

Just like five years from now, we won't remember that the increase went from $0.25 to $0.50.

You can't just look at it and say well it should be this much or that much because over time, payments
and amounts have changed. A person on my second level might have joined 5 years ago, upgraded, and
canceled out the next year. What you are seeing there is 'active referrals' and the amount of earnings I
have made from the start 5 years ago. You're not seeing who has upgraded over the years or who has
canceled out, etc.

ACTIVE is what you are seeing in the image.

Reality is, my organization is much much much larger than that if you were to count inactives.

And if you look at the very first part of my post up there, you will see I posted my earnings for the day thus far...since typing that, my earnings for the day are now : Commissions today $8.6456

Ok lets look at what I have earned so far today and the day is not over :
Commissions today $7.5844

By the way, I am sure I am not the biggest earner in ClixSense.
Another point you made, you don't see me on the top sponsor list, do you? Nope ya don't.
In fact, some of those top sponsors may not be earning as much as I am whereas others may be earning more.

Now I'll go grab my direct stats....

Referrals active 96 total 1,100 premium 32

As you can see from the above, I have 96 active members and I have sponsored a total of 1,100 members with 32 actives being premium.

I'll show you something else before I get to the nitty gritty...



Take a strong look at the stats image above.
Where is the most earnings?

If you said level one, you are correct. Look again at my first level direct referrals and my upgraded direct referrals and think about the fact I have sponsored over the course of almost 5 years, 1,100 members.

There are a couple of big sponsors in my organization of 8 levels. One member I sponsored has sponsored over 4,000 members but of course they are not all active.

I keep telling everyone, you DON'T look at INACTIVES. If you focus on in members you sponsor that become inactive, you'll go nuts. The money is NOT in inactives so why bother to even think about it let alone waste your time dwelling on it? You ask what I do so I am telling you, I don't give a hoot about inactives. If they don't want to make money, that is their option. If they don't have the time, that is their choice. If they can't see the forest for the trees, that is their problem. I keep on keeping on and THAT is the KEY.

Sure, I've gotten busy doing other things over the years. I do have a life. I also have my own programs at times that I have to focus on.

The referrals are going to yoyo. It's a constant weed out process. The good part about that is, you don't have to weed them out, they do a good job of that themselves.

I've never looked at ClixSense as a way to make a living. I've never said, I am going to make $10,000 with ClixSense.
I might set small goals for myself here in ClixSense from time to time and setting small goals is good.

Some times people will sign up and never click the first ad. Who knows why they signed up? I don't know. Maybe
they checked it out and decided a cent was not good enough for them. Some times people sign up and will be active
for months, maybe even upgrade, maybe be active for years....and then the next thing you know, they are no longer
active. People's lives change. People do other things. Maybe they get a better paying job. Maybe they pass away.
Maybe they get married, have children, spend their time else where. But you can't look at that. That is not the
way to be successful.

Some times I look at my stats and think, hey, the directs are getting a little low, guess I'll go out there and
place some ads and when I do place ads, I almost always gain referrals.

Some of my direct referrals have in fact been active for 5 years. Some of my direct upgraded members have
been active for almost 5 years. There will be those that continue forward for years, just like some of mine have.
The majority, probably won't. And that is why you have to keep on keeping on.

There is no such thing as build it and forget it. Nope. That is a line of bs. Take a strong look again at my image
stats....again, where is the most money and where is the least referrals? It's level 1 isn't it? YES it is my OWN
EFFORTS. Let's just say that I did not do anything over the course of 5 years after referring some members...
how much money would I have made? And what if I did not click ads daily? My guess is, I'd made a whole lot
less.....perhaps thousands less. Because when YOU sponsor people, some of them are going to sponsor people.
And even if that one you sponsored becomes inactive, the ones they sponsored may stay active.

In my book, $4,000 over the course of 5 years, is not a lot of money. However, where I sit, that is a mighty
high interest rate earned on $10 or $15 or even $17 per year. I always do the math. And I always look at
a 90 percent drop rate. Then I figure what the program earnings possibilities are within sound judgement
of what can truly be achieved. Then I go for it or I don't. Mostly I don't because most the programs out
there are full of bologna on their math and what a person can truly achieve.

Read my tips I posted. Place ads whenever you can and utilize free sources as much as you can too.
After all, ClixSense is free and it is the free people too that are going to help you earn when you directly
refer them even if they never upgrade. Click every ad you see in ClixSense because it does add up.
Don't focus on inactives. Relay your earnings to others whenever possible no matter how small. Let
people know how it works. Use eye grabbing subject lines. Keep a signature line in all your email accounts.
Join a social network or two and really try to make friends. Post free classified ads, join webrings, use
a traffic exchange or two, use meager earnings in other programs that you can transfer to advertising.
Create a blog and keep it active.

There is an unlimited amount of resources out there. It's never ending actually. You can't do everything
at once but you can start doing something and take it forward from there. As time moves forward, you'll
be glad you did. If I had not done anything, I'd be an inactive and I'd be less $4,000.

You are very welcome and thanks for the thanks and congrats too.

I don't have many direct referrals. I never have many direct referrals. I don't have many upgraded direct referrals either. I keep telling you folks, you don't need a lot of directs, course the more the merrier.