valerie wrote: You understood my point in your second paragraph.
People think of ghosts, spirits, as some floating entity.
It is tricky - they are actually, but temporarily - none of us started as physical humans. When we die our soul is parted from our physical shell, for whatever period of time (although time does not exist outside physical body), so are we in some sort of limbo (until judgment day) - Well it does say in scripture that the time will come where everyone will be resurrected into a physical form and go through judgment - How will that happen is the big mystery, if we get buried, our body rots, only the bones remain. If we are cremated, they burn the flesh, and crush the bones into powder, so same thing, we shall be brought back, whether it is our same bodies regenerated or a new one, might be irrelevant, I'd say we might be given a new body.
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taking place. The Bible says we will go to heaven or hell. It says in heaven, we will receive a new body.
Most people misinterpret this part and think that as you die you go straight to heaven or hell. You often hear people say "oh he is now in a better place", all lies - because as you die you don't go straight to hell or heaven, you must go through judgment (according to scripture) - so where DO you go then ? Nowhere, since notion of time is void outside the body, at your death you would instantly wake up to judgment day as if no time has passed. Much like when you are knocked out for surgery and wake up and the doctor says "well it's done already......" So it makes sense that in heaven we would be given a new body, is that body physical though that's unlikely, in hell I would say the body is physical and feels much the same as human body only this body in hell is eternal, cannot die, cannot break, it is a physical life of eternal torment and suffering, whereas heaven is the opposite. It could be that in heaven you get a body too - now the logic in this is, if we are a soul in a physical body, what's the point ? Maybe a soul is meant to live in a body and feel senses, so I guess it would be no different in heaven - the debate is whether heaven would be life as we know it here, but free of all evil, OR if heaven would be just a state, a pure state of energy, all knowing and unity, different to any reality or perception we were used to on earth ? Other theories suggest that earth is limbo - we are already in between heaven and hell - when you watch the news lately, it seems to me this could already be hell - many parts of the world are already living hell, all year long, there are billions of people starving and living a life of utter F'n misery, that sure sounds hellish to me, but it's not the entire world, so the theory of limbo might not be a bad one.
Another debate is Cremation - whether it is a sin or not. It's one thing for our body to rot in a natural way, it's another to have someone else BURN you and crush you, something that you have allowed, so does that fall under mutilation of body, disrespect for our creator, etc ? It would be a shame, because a lot of people opt for cremation nowadays, not based on conviction but strictly for financial reasons - not to burden their loved ones - nobody wants to get ripped off by the industry of the death run mostly by vicious criminals and organised crime. Cremation costs a fraction of a normal burial - I even heard cases here where the lowest you could pay is about $2k-$4k, now compare that with paying $25k-$50k, it's no wonder people chose cremation, but is it considered a sin ? Are you doomed to hell if you do ? It seems the Catholic church allows this now, even though it was frowned upon before.
Then there is the topic of gender change, tattoos, etc, both are mutilations - it sure is a good thing we were given free will to do as we please, and sadly, if following scripture alone, majority of people would be doomed to hell, even people who claim to have never killed or hurt anybody - apparently even if you ask for forgiveness, if it is not genuine and you did something KNOWING it is against stuff you read in scripture, then that forgiveness is as good as nothing, if you repeat the same.......yeah I remember back in the days that job I had, got work finished much earlier than expected most days, and we had to stay, so spent most of my time reading the Bible, especially Revelations
and what is happening today (most of it) is EXACTLY the stuff I read in those years, a lot of things have come to pass, and there is more, way more.......... Just look in the news how kids as young as 5 are killing their parents, their sister, their brother, latest news, a 5 year old shot his brother TWICE !!!!! In America guns reign supreme people settle their scores with guns - you don't like someone, bang bang bang, you don't like someone's shoes, bang bang bang, you wake up in a bad mood, bang bang bang.........Parents who are still foolish enough to send their kids to school nowadays, wonder every bloody day if they will get to see their children again !!!
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Could it be our brain is already wired into a place between heaven and hell or maybe that is what THE judgement book is all about. After all, when we die, our bodies rot away and they do so rather quickly. There's also cremation and natural disasters that destroy the body. You know, I am not the least bit closed minded. I believe we can understand more about the Bible and creation by opening our eyes to what is also logical in possibilities. Years ago, people couldn't fathom what we have today. As time marches onward, we are seeing how creation is real and how God can take us where've he wants us to go.
I agree, and with what's happening in the world today it pretty much matches scripture to the T. The world is on fire, the world is flooded - Heck, Canada is burning I'm sure you heard of this, fires everywhere, volcanoes erupting, etc, remember that passage about fire and brimstone ? Some scenes in Canada show an orange sky, it's like scenes taken from a doomsday movie and in the recent floods, roads opening in half, etc, it's exactly like scenes in 2012 .........
For people who don't even believe in EVIL and that evil has taken control of earth, they sure must be living in a bunker.
I also believe the AntiChrist is alive and nearer than we think, paper money is becoming scarce, today there is digital wallets, tomorrow it will be skin implants, so yeah things are happening as suggested.
I do think we have passed that point of no return, a long time ago - now life seems to be all about survival, if you can wake up one bloody day and make it the entire day without being shot or murdered as you do your normal things, it's a blessing - because in many parts of the world you cannot even walk safely anymore, even in broad day light without the fear of being beheaded, stabbed or shot, and we all know why - and I hope that people don't have too short of memories in 2024, and for people who dislike the candidate, for the love of God, don't give the far socialist left another mandate. The better option would be to cancel your vote, or vote for some party that will never win, like the Green Tea party, or the Crocodile party, or the Ketchup party, anything is better than the disastrous war mongering of current administration.