Actually there is something even more concerning than the Bill 5, it's called Appen. They will make the second acquisition payment to F8 in 2020, and officially merge and take over, sometime around March/April/May. If you do some digging and research about Appen you will see a lot of complaints about them and you will see that they have acquired another crowd platform in the past and that companies they acquired did far worse, as most acquisitions in history, so this is not too encouraging. The issue is, will they retain F8's team and will they continue maintaining external channels ? Either way there will be implications: 1) If they do continue as is today, expect fewer tasks and lower pay, this is typical of large acquisitions, they aim for a quick ROI..... 2) If they discontinue the external channels agreement, ten this means that all work must be done through Appen's or formerly F8's contributor portal, no big deal right ? people can just work directly from there and avoid the site cut from tasks ? WELL not exactly, it would mean that a lot international GPTs will lose most of their international traffic, as there is no PTC element, so it's only tasks and surveys, and international traffic do tasks........ SO as a result of this scenario, GPTs would have massive loss in income, and what do you think they will do to ? Further lower the survey pay rates !
As far as Bill 5, it will definitely be the end of many online earning opportunity HOWEVER, there are some sites that might fall under a grey area. So it's a big question mark on GPT and CrowdSourcing. On this site we are not officially classified as anything, we do not have a binding contract to perform some duties other than the legally binding rules of conduct in relation to the surveys and tasks, though one could argue that these are passed on by the actual providers of work. Also this and other GPTs do not provide work directly, they rely on 3rd parties. And finally, we are not doing hourly paid work, we are on a commission basis or paid per unit - Yes the wages are ridiculously low, but the bill does not mention about freelancers paid by commission or per unit, so this would be the grey area. For tasks, it is individual authors who set the pay rate, again per unit, so there are some confusions 1) Does it apply only to hourly rate? 2) Does it apply only to CALIFORNIA state freelance/contractors ? I'm sure no site will disappear immediately on January 1st, 2020, there will be transition period, and companies can still try to pass ABC test or adjust to fit requirements.
Companies that want to continue classifying workers as contractors will just have to require that their freelancers open their LLCs
Though you'd think that lawmakers would add provisions for such loopholes, but anyhow.
There is a risk for us here, but the risk is not as big as hourly paid freelancers. I used to freelance for a California based company, for years, and was paid hourly, knowing that company well there is no way they would have classified myself and other freelancers as employees
As far as Prodege, the ones who are at most risk are its freelancers IF any, if their developers, support or any staff they have are classified as independent contractors, that will be a problem, they will have to be classified as employees and paid accordingly, though it's unclear if all their staff are in California. IF they are remote workers from other countries, that's again a big question. It's funny how the bill is ambiguous in these area and do not address those. Maybe this bill will be overturned when the Republicans win in 2021. I really do not think Uber/Lyft and Co. with their $90 million pledge, will overturn this bill.[/quote]
TBH I have no idea what you are talking about lol as obviously you have such a more knowledge about the stuff. Much more knowledge stuff than myself.
As I said, just hope, in my case, I mean will stay how it is. Tasks plus surveys equal myself happy